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Suicide on the increase in middle-class Kenya
hamburglar
#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:26:03 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


Applause Applause Applause
Angelica _ann
#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:45:48 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


Applause Applause Applause


And when they are ready to exit.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#23 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 6:37:50 AM
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madollar wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


I don't know if I agree with that... valid all the same... But it's the most selfish act.

Why "selfish"?

Coz of those you leave behind spouse, parents, kids, siblings, friends

People are left blaming themselves


Just leave a nicely written suicide with a clear reason why. then the rest wont blame themselves.

In some communities you are flogged then buried at night that way those left behind wanabaki with no guilt

Hahaha! It's not cool to extinguish oneself.. Shows a real weakness in resolve and lack of faith in higher powers
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Thitifini
#24 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 12:24:02 AM
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Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.

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Angelica _ann
#25 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 7:22:00 AM
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Thitifini wrote:
Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.


Haiya really, at that age & life accomplishment / achievements, why?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Speculz
#26 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 7:37:33 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.


Haiya really, at that age & life accomplishment / achievements, why?


Luke 9:25 - What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet loses or forfeits his very self?

Matters of the mind are difficult to comprehend.
"You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
Spikes
#27 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:00:14 AM
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hamburglar wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


Applause Applause Applause


This is rubbish. Life is precious. Homicide and suicide are both an abomination before our Lord of lords Jesus Christ.
One of the ten commandments says : thou shall not kill. Period.

But still I suspect wichtcraft is under influence of prominent people committing suicide. Exorcism is necessary from annointed servants of God.
John 5:17But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Angelica _ann
#28 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 10:04:35 AM
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Spikes wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


Applause Applause Applause


This is rubbish. Life is precious. Homicide and suicide are both an abomination before our Lord of lords Jesus Christ.
One of the ten commandments says : thou shall not kill. Period.

But still I suspect wichtcraft is under influence of prominent people committing suicide. Exorcism is necessary from annointed servants of God.


That is ending life on your terms, nothing wrong with that. At end of the day we will all die, regardless.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Spikes
#29 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 10:14:08 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


Applause Applause Applause


This is rubbish. Life is precious. Homicide and suicide are both an abomination before our Lord of lords Jesus Christ.
One of the ten commandments says : thou shall not kill. Period.

But still I suspect wichtcraft is under influence of prominent people committing suicide. Exorcism is necessary from annointed servants of God.


That is ending life on your terms, nothing wrong with that. At end of the day we will all die, regardless.


Your philosophy sounds like that of an atheist. And you believe that we'll all die therefore no reason for existence. So frustrating and pathetic like the depression plunging prominent personalities into suicide.
Religious people think that way but the kingdom people are full of joy and fulfillment.
John 5:17But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
2012
#30 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 11:44:47 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.


Haiya really, at that age & life accomplishment / achievements, why?


Shocked me too or let's lower that to surprised. And was that the best method? Jumping from 5 floors you may survive and break all your bones.

Stand for something or you will fall for anything. Today's mighty oak is yesterday's nut that held its ground. Rosa Parks
Lolest!
#31 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 11:55:13 AM
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2012 wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.


Haiya really, at that age & life accomplishment / achievements, why?


Shocked me too or let's lower that to surprised. And was that the best method? Jumping from 5 floors you may survive and break all your bones.

Carbon monoxide after a tired day
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2012
#32 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 2:48:41 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
2012 wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.


Haiya really, at that age & life accomplishment / achievements, why?


Shocked me too or let's lower that to surprised. And was that the best method? Jumping from 5 floors you may survive and break all your bones.

Carbon monoxide after a tired day


By the way, I know a jamaa who survived a jiko on his first attempt. He took booze first then blacked out but woke up fresh in the morning. He was separated from his wife so the neighbor's housii went in and woke him up after suspecting something. But on his second attempt some days later, he succeeded.

Stand for something or you will fall for anything. Today's mighty oak is yesterday's nut that held its ground. Rosa Parks
Angelica _ann
#33 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 2:52:21 PM
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2012 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
2012 wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.


Haiya really, at that age & life accomplishment / achievements, why?


Shocked me too or let's lower that to surprised. And was that the best method? Jumping from 5 floors you may survive and break all your bones.

Carbon monoxide after a tired day


By the way, I know a jamaa who survived a jiko on his first attempt. He took booze first then blacked out but woke up fresh in the morning. He was separated from his wife so the neighbor's housii went in and woke him up after suspecting something. But on his second attempt some days later, he succeeded.


That is determination. I hear it is 'smooth & painless'. Among the best ways to go.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
murchr
#34 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 5:32:29 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.


Haiya really, at that age & life accomplishment / achievements, why?


Mental illness is real. People are disturbed.
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2012
#35 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2019 7:05:50 PM
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murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
Prof. Abel Mugend to the list. May he RIP.


Haiya really, at that age & life accomplishment / achievements, why?


Mental illness is real. People are disturbed.


Do you really think it's mental illness? I think it's not for most, most decide with rational and clear minds.

(By the way, who has watched this movie called Bird Box?)

Stand for something or you will fall for anything. Today's mighty oak is yesterday's nut that held its ground. Rosa Parks
jokes
#36 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2019 7:24:21 PM
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You can see a person's age by his post
essyk
#37 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2019 10:12:49 PM
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Even here there's a wazuan whose rattling posts just scream'help'.
All the gra gra is a deep cry for attention.
I rem this dude on one 9ja forum who would not let people breathe.Always lashing out with big words and super proud till I used to admire his mchongoano cz they were hilarious. Laughing out loudly
He was admirable and a very intelligent character.. 'online' always answering every post where he was mentioned.

Turned out he was a cyber con,broke,depressed and wanted. When those who had interacted with him started talking the forum was on fire.
Chesos!

Relax breathe in and out.
You don't owe anybody your life.Ok no one even cares what you do except your fam.Laughing out loudly

And When you feel fed up..call a friend like swenani.Laughing out loudly
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2019 11:09:43 PM
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2012 wrote:

By the way, I know a jamaa who survived a jiko on his first attempt. He took booze first then blacked out but woke up fresh in the morning. He was separated from his wife so the neighbor's housii went in and woke him up after suspecting something. But on his second attempt some days later, he succeeded.



This guy should have gone immediately after his first try, there shouldn't have been a second suicide attempt, here's is why he survived:-

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2353360
Mike Ock
#39 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2019 7:38:00 AM
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A lot of suicides in men are from putting so much stock in a relationship to the point where their identity is tied to the relationship. When the relationship goes south, the man hits rock bottom because he did "everything he was supposed to" na bado things went kaput.
tycho
#40 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:57:25 AM
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Mike Ock wrote:
A lot of suicides in men are from putting so much stock in a relationship to the point where their identity is tied to the relationship. When the relationship goes south, the man hits rock bottom because he did "everything he was supposed to" na bado things went kaput.


The problem is that an identity is a product of relationship.

Maybe we're talking about a catch 22.

But today in the morning, in the midst of anguish, I remembered my mother.

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