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Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 10:12:50 AM
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Location: 08c
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#2 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 10:20:13 AM
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Quote:
Revenue FLAT
Gross Profit 6.5% DOWN
PAT 40% DOWN
EPS 46% DOWN
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
VituVingiSana
#3 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 11:03:29 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 14,908
Location: Nairobi
Tough times for local firms.
At least the 1H 2018 > 2H 2017 but a lot needs to be done.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Fyatu
#4 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 11:03:56 AM
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Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,186
Location: Nakuru
I am also in this bus ABP 3.60. I am happy it is a profit though earnings are small(3%) it still a profit.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Metch
#5 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 11:25:47 AM
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Posts: 129
Location: Mombasa, Kenya
VituVingiSana wrote:
Tough times for local firms.
At least the 1H 2018 > 2H 2017 but a lot needs to be done.

Still reeling from the effects of Nakumatt's collapse. A key sales channel and over 800m lost there.
Start!
obiero
#6 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 8:24:28 PM
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Location: nairobi
Pesa Nane wrote:

In my prayers
COOP 5,500; KCB 2,500; KQ 95,000
VituVingiSana
#7 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 9:42:21 PM
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obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:

In my prayers

Lakini, it is profitable.
Please help FTGH out by asking KQ to buy peanuts and liquid soap from FTGH.
And ask those FAs to buy Suzie cosmetics.
Of course, KQ to pay cash. No credit. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#8 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 10:02:31 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:

In my prayers

Lakini, it is profitable.
Please help FTGH out by asking KQ to buy peanuts and liquid soap from FTGH.
And ask those FAs to buy Suzie cosmetics.
Of course, KQ to pay cash. No credit. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Cool Laughing out loudly
COOP 5,500; KCB 2,500; KQ 95,000
the deal
#9 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 9:14:47 AM
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Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:

In my prayers

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly why does this stock get attention on Wazua?
mlennyma
#10 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 3:21:11 PM
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the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:

In my prayers

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly why does this stock get attention on Wazua?

this man has never shared any penny with investors
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
tom_boy
#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 6:36:36 PM
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Down to 3 bob. Pesa ya tropical peremende.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:40:06 PM
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Location: Nairobi
tom_boy wrote:
Down to 3 bob. Pesa ya tropical peremende.

He needs to learn from KQ and do a 4:1 Reverse Split so the price increases to 12/-! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
At 3/-, FTGH is not even in the lowest 10.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Angelica _ann
#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:45:10 PM
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Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full.

Cc. ARMsmile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:49:52 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full.

Cc. ARMsmile

Please speak nicely to @vvs @fyatu .. Be kind. both are victims at ARM and now this nyani too
COOP 5,500; KCB 2,500; KQ 95,000
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:03:42 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 14,908
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full.

Cc. ARMsmile

Please speak nicely to @vvs @fyatu .. Be kind. both are victims at ARM and now this nyani too
No stress since we are not investing in a business that flies at 40% capacity! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#16 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 8:20:52 AM
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full.

Cc. ARMsmile

Please speak nicely to @vvs @fyatu .. Be kind. both are victims at ARM and now this nyani too


Monkeys are ok so long as they are not more than 10% of the portfolio. By monkeys I mean companies that are not profitable, don't pay dividends or have management issues.
Life is short. Live passionately.
rwitre
#17 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 9:47:02 AM
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I don’t get the bile against FTGH.
- Well managed firm
- Simple, clear businesses in its portfolio
- Expanding
- Profitable

Which is way more than you can say about most NSE companies. Not giving out dividend but instead ploughing back the proceeds into growing the company and shareholder value is better than dishing them out then taking up more debt or calling for a rights issue.

Falling price? Hello…blood is everywhere this bear season.

“Price is what you pay, value is what you get”

I'd argue that at the current price FTGH is a buy and hold.
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:39:52 PM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full.

Cc. ARMsmile

Please speak nicely to @vvs @fyatu .. Be kind. both are victims at ARM and now this nyani too

Monkeys are ok so long as they are not more than 10% of the portfolio. By monkeys I mean companies that are not profitable, don't pay dividends or have management issues.

FTGH is substantially less than 10% of my portfolio
BUT do all 3 conditions have to apply?
it is profitable
it did not pay a dividend for FY17
it doesn't seem to have a management issue
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 3:42:42 PM
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rwitre wrote:
I don’t get the bile against FTGH.
- Well managed firm
- Simple, clear businesses in its portfolio
- Expanding
- Profitable

Which is way more than you can say about most NSE companies. Not giving out dividend but instead ploughing back the proceeds into growing the company and shareholder value is better than dishing them out then taking up more debt or calling for a rights issue.

Falling price? Hello…blood is everywhere this bear season.

“Price is what you pay, value is what you get”

I'd argue that at the current price FTGH is a buy and hold.
Applause Applause Applause I am out of cash until the next set of dividends come in and/or Rubis sends me a chq. Currently it is one of Tier 3 investments for me but one worth looking at in the future.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
rwitre
#20 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2018 10:44:29 AM
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Joined: 3/8/2018
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Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
rwitre wrote:
I don’t get the bile against FTGH.
- Well managed firm
- Simple, clear businesses in its portfolio
- Expanding
- Profitable

Which is way more than you can say about most NSE companies. Not giving out dividend but instead ploughing back the proceeds into growing the company and shareholder value is better than dishing them out then taking up more debt or calling for a rights issue.

Falling price? Hello…blood is everywhere this bear season.

“Price is what you pay, value is what you get”

I'd argue that at the current price FTGH is a buy and hold.
Applause Applause Applause I am out of cash until the next set of dividends come in and/or Rubis sends me a chq. Currently it is one of Tier 3 investments for me but one worth looking at in the future.


Interesting...FTGH hasn't traded a single share this week. Insiders totally refusing to sell. Weak hands shaken out? Signs of a bottom?
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