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murchr
#41 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2018 12:38:48 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 14,948
Well Well......


Business Daily wrote:
Education secretary Amina Mohamed ignored a report by technical officers at the ministry suggesting preparedness to implement the new syllabus when she cancelled the curriculum.

The report submitted to Uasin Gishu Senator Margaret Kamar-chaired Committee on Education on Tuesday indicated that the country was fully prepared for the new curriculum.

Ms Mohamed ignored the report and revealed the country was not ready for the new curriculum that was introduced this year under pilot, reverting to the 8-4-4 system introduced in 1984.


The technical team that accompanied her to the Senate on Tuesday, including Education PS Belio Kipsang and the Kenya Institute for Curriculum Development (KICD) chief executive Julius Jwan, dismayed.

"The Ministry of Education is fully prepared and has made adequate arrangements for the continued implementation of the competency-based curriculum in terms of teaching materials, facilities and teachers,” said the technical team in its presentation.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#42 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2018 8:55:46 AM
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Joined: 7/23/2008
Posts: 3,012
limanika wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Euge wrote:
So the new system is on hold? SMH


Amina should resign since she's proved to be incompetent . What is needed(or lacks) if the change happens incrementally per year?

There is no way infrastructure can be "built" if the program is not rolling out, since infrastructure improves as challenges are met. Change management in govt is close to 0


She has done the right thing. Better late than never. The whole thing has so many gaps. For instance 1)/the 2018 class 3 do not know whether they're in new system or old system 2) exams, at there'll be no national exam at end of primary? Will they rely on continous assessments over the years? They trust the teachers to give honest marks? You can go on and on..

those should be the easiest points to implement, if you cant trust teachers to give honest results why trust them to teach in the first place, plus there were supposed to be several national/regional exams over that period.

That said the biggest failure was the infrastructure and resources needed for the new system, for a competency based system one that moves away from the 3 day national exams that are supposed to test a ids 8 years of work, we would need labs and other facilities, I think that is where the issue came up.

Have you just landed from mars? Why are teachers asked to stay away from schools during national exams? You havent heard teachers implicated in leakage and cheating? All in thr name of popularizing their schools and to win end year gifts for 'great' performance? Giving such teachers 70% chance to choose who becomes your doctor 20 yrs from now, you're very happy about that?


Exams (specifically KCPE & KCSE) is what slows down the development of our country and peoples educations. They are purposely done to reduce the opportunities for students admission to the next level because the govt is too myopic to realise that everyone needs education.

How come universities don't have a collective examining body. The lecturers determine your performance. the same should be applied to all levels of education. The govt should be restricted to setting standards.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
limanika
#43 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2018 11:00:51 AM
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Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 1,979
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Euge wrote:
So the new system is on hold? SMH


Amina should resign since she's proved to be incompetent . What is needed(or lacks) if the change happens incrementally per year?

There is no way infrastructure can be "built" if the program is not rolling out, since infrastructure improves as challenges are met. Change management in govt is close to 0


She has done the right thing. Better late than never. The whole thing has so many gaps. For instance 1)/the 2018 class 3 do not know whether they're in new system or old system 2) exams, at there'll be no national exam at end of primary? Will they rely on continous assessments over the years? They trust the teachers to give honest marks? You can go on and on..


Continous assessment can be handled by KNEC. Infact I have been informed that Knec has been conducting exams in selected schools mashinani....

Why would you need a lab for class one? Think Limanika you may have been born yesterday and found everything in place for 844 but for those who sat for the first exam in 1989 the infrastructure was done incrementally.

I do not even think Amina's statement is the official stand of govt...we will see.

Laughing out loudly yours truly isnt that young. Now, 8-4-4 implementation plan failed so its not something to emulate. This new system is being rushed. Surely developing curriculum content should be the easiest thing. No way you can develop a curriculum as you implement, the kids will easily outgrow you! Let them develop entire curriculum say for primary level first and address all other teething problems b4 implementing.
murchr
#44 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2018 3:43:08 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 14,948
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Euge wrote:
So the new system is on hold? SMH


Amina should resign since she's proved to be incompetent . What is needed(or lacks) if the change happens incrementally per year?

There is no way infrastructure can be "built" if the program is not rolling out, since infrastructure improves as challenges are met. Change management in govt is close to 0


She has done the right thing. Better late than never. The whole thing has so many gaps. For instance 1)/the 2018 class 3 do not know whether they're in new system or old system 2) exams, at there'll be no national exam at end of primary? Will they rely on continous assessments over the years? They trust the teachers to give honest marks? You can go on and on..


Continous assessment can be handled by KNEC. Infact I have been informed that Knec has been conducting exams in selected schools mashinani....

Why would you need a lab for class one? Think Limanika you may have been born yesterday and found everything in place for 844 but for those who sat for the first exam in 1989 the infrastructure was done incrementally.

I do not even think Amina's statement is the official stand of govt...we will see.

Laughing out loudly yours truly isnt that young. Now, 8-4-4 implementation plan failed so its not something to emulate. This new system is being rushed. Surely developing curriculum content should be the easiest thing. No way you can develop a curriculum as you implement, the kids will easily outgrow you! Let them develop entire curriculum say for primary level first and address all other teething problems b4 implementing.



844 was very much a success it's failure was that it did not evolve as the world changed.

If Amina thinks she will have to wait for labs to be constructed so that the kids going to class 4 now can use them in 3 yrs she needs to explain if their education should first stop.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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limanika
#45 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:52:53 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 1,979
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Euge wrote:
So the new system is on hold? SMH


Amina should resign since she's proved to be incompetent . What is needed(or lacks) if the change happens incrementally per year?

There is no way infrastructure can be "built" if the program is not rolling out, since infrastructure improves as challenges are met. Change management in govt is close to 0


She has done the right thing. Better late than never. The whole thing has so many gaps. For instance 1)/the 2018 class 3 do not know whether they're in new system or old system 2) exams, at there'll be no national exam at end of primary? Will they rely on continous assessments over the years? They trust the teachers to give honest marks? You can go on and on..


Continous assessment can be handled by KNEC. Infact I have been informed that Knec has been conducting exams in selected schools mashinani....

Why would you need a lab for class one? Think Limanika you may have been born yesterday and found everything in place for 844 but for those who sat for the first exam in 1989 the infrastructure was done incrementally.

I do not even think Amina's statement is the official stand of govt...we will see.

Laughing out loudly yours truly isnt that young. Now, 8-4-4 implementation plan failed so its not something to emulate. This new system is being rushed. Surely developing curriculum content should be the easiest thing. No way you can develop a curriculum as you implement, the kids will easily outgrow you! Let them develop entire curriculum say for primary level first and address all other teething problems b4 implementing.



844 was very much a success it's failure was that it did not evolve as the world changed.

If Amina thinks she will have to wait for labs to be constructed so that the kids going to class 4 now can use them in 3 yrs she needs to explain if their education should first stop.


Laughing out loudly 8-4-4 implementation failed let's not even go there. On this new system, how do you design course books say for grade 1&2 when the kids are actually in class as they waitLaughing out loudly ? That's exactly what happened early this year. Worse still, you develop grade 2 course book, yet you do not have full curriculum for 3-9. The curriculum for entire grade 1-9 need to be developed first so that you are sure the entire program is wholesome, there are no gaps and will produce intended results. And then, the people making noise are complaining about money lost. Nobody is asking whether children are really getting better education or not. And then the cost of implementation. Nobody worked out the cost at the beginning. Imagine that. Govt doesn't have the money
murchr
#46 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2018 4:17:12 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 14,948
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Euge wrote:
So the new system is on hold? SMH


Amina should resign since she's proved to be incompetent . What is needed(or lacks) if the change happens incrementally per year?

There is no way infrastructure can be "built" if the program is not rolling out, since infrastructure improves as challenges are met. Change management in govt is close to 0


She has done the right thing. Better late than never. The whole thing has so many gaps. For instance 1)/the 2018 class 3 do not know whether they're in new system or old system 2) exams, at there'll be no national exam at end of primary? Will they rely on continous assessments over the years? They trust the teachers to give honest marks? You can go on and on..


Continous assessment can be handled by KNEC. Infact I have been informed that Knec has been conducting exams in selected schools mashinani....

Why would you need a lab for class one? Think Limanika you may have been born yesterday and found everything in place for 844 but for those who sat for the first exam in 1989 the infrastructure was done incrementally.

I do not even think Amina's statement is the official stand of govt...we will see.

Laughing out loudly yours truly isnt that young. Now, 8-4-4 implementation plan failed so its not something to emulate. This new system is being rushed. Surely developing curriculum content should be the easiest thing. No way you can develop a curriculum as you implement, the kids will easily outgrow you! Let them develop entire curriculum say for primary level first and address all other teething problems b4 implementing.



844 was very much a success it's failure was that it did not evolve as the world changed.

If Amina thinks she will have to wait for labs to be constructed so that the kids going to class 4 now can use them in 3 yrs she needs to explain if their education should first stop.


Laughing out loudly 8-4-4 implementation failed let's not even go there. On this new system, how do you design course books say for grade 1&2 when the kids are actually in class as they waitLaughing out loudly ? That's exactly what happened early this year. Worse still, you develop grade 2 course book, yet you do not have full curriculum for 3-9. The curriculum for entire grade 1-9 need to be developed first so that you are sure the entire program is wholesome, there are no gaps and will produce intended results. And then, the people making noise are complaining about money lost. Nobody is asking whether children are really getting better education or not. And then the cost of implementation. Nobody worked out the cost at the beginning. Imagine that. Govt doesn't have the money



How can it have failed yet it has been in existence for 29 years going to be 30 in 2019. In fact you still want it to continue to be in existence.

844 is expired. It is not in tandem with the new age. Anyone graduating without learning how to use a computer can not claim to be learned. The world moved on, most candidates are obsolete.

And Amina is the problem here, there's a reason guys at MFA threw a party when she left.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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limanika
#47 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2018 4:56:55 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 1,979
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Euge wrote:
So the new system is on hold? SMH


Amina should resign since she's proved to be incompetent . What is needed(or lacks) if the change happens incrementally per year?

There is no way infrastructure can be "built" if the program is not rolling out, since infrastructure improves as challenges are met. Change management in govt is close to 0


She has done the right thing. Better late than never. The whole thing has so many gaps. For instance 1)/the 2018 class 3 do not know whether they're in new system or old system 2) exams, at there'll be no national exam at end of primary? Will they rely on continous assessments over the years? They trust the teachers to give honest marks? You can go on and on..


Continous assessment can be handled by KNEC. Infact I have been informed that Knec has been conducting exams in selected schools mashinani....

Why would you need a lab for class one? Think Limanika you may have been born yesterday and found everything in place for 844 but for those who sat for the first exam in 1989 the infrastructure was done incrementally.

I do not even think Amina's statement is the official stand of govt...we will see.

Laughing out loudly yours truly isnt that young. Now, 8-4-4 implementation plan failed so its not something to emulate. This new system is being rushed. Surely developing curriculum content should be the easiest thing. No way you can develop a curriculum as you implement, the kids will easily outgrow you! Let them develop entire curriculum say for primary level first and address all other teething problems b4 implementing.



844 was very much a success it's failure was that it did not evolve as the world changed.

If Amina thinks she will have to wait for labs to be constructed so that the kids going to class 4 now can use them in 3 yrs she needs to explain if their education should first stop.


Laughing out loudly 8-4-4 implementation failed let's not even go there. On this new system, how do you design course books say for grade 1&2 when the kids are actually in class as they waitLaughing out loudly ? That's exactly what happened early this year. Worse still, you develop grade 2 course book, yet you do not have full curriculum for 3-9. The curriculum for entire grade 1-9 need to be developed first so that you are sure the entire program is wholesome, there are no gaps and will produce intended results. And then, the people making noise are complaining about money lost. Nobody is asking whether children are really getting better education or not. And then the cost of implementation. Nobody worked out the cost at the beginning. Imagine that. Govt doesn't have the money



How can it have failed yet it has been in existence for 29 years going to be 30 in 2019. In fact you still want it to continue to be in existence.

844 is expired. It is not in tandem with the new age. Anyone graduating without learning how to use a computer can not claim to be learned. The world moved on, most candidates are obsolete.

And Amina is the problem here, there's a reason guys at MFA threw a party when she left.

This thread not about 8-4-4. It's an imperfect system, but you dont scrap it off and replace with anything...8-4-4 wasnt that bad. But can you respond to real issues regarding 2-6-6-3 roll-out. ION, today there was a multi sect oral seminar of stakeholders and experts in education sector. They noted that 2-6-6-3 was hastily rolled out without adequate planning and recommended that the roll-out be delayed till 2020 to enable govt put the house in order. Am vindicated. I hope they get it right. Am hopeful Amina will do it right this time round
murchr
#48 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2018 6:03:51 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 14,948
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Euge wrote:
So the new system is on hold? SMH


Amina should resign since she's proved to be incompetent . What is needed(or lacks) if the change happens incrementally per year?

There is no way infrastructure can be "built" if the program is not rolling out, since infrastructure improves as challenges are met. Change management in govt is close to 0


She has done the right thing. Better late than never. The whole thing has so many gaps. For instance 1)/the 2018 class 3 do not know whether they're in new system or old system 2) exams, at there'll be no national exam at end of primary? Will they rely on continous assessments over the years? They trust the teachers to give honest marks? You can go on and on..


Continous assessment can be handled by KNEC. Infact I have been informed that Knec has been conducting exams in selected schools mashinani....

Why would you need a lab for class one? Think Limanika you may have been born yesterday and found everything in place for 844 but for those who sat for the first exam in 1989 the infrastructure was done incrementally.

I do not even think Amina's statement is the official stand of govt...we will see.

Laughing out loudly yours truly isnt that young. Now, 8-4-4 implementation plan failed so its not something to emulate. This new system is being rushed. Surely developing curriculum content should be the easiest thing. No way you can develop a curriculum as you implement, the kids will easily outgrow you! Let them develop entire curriculum say for primary level first and address all other teething problems b4 implementing.



844 was very much a success it's failure was that it did not evolve as the world changed.

If Amina thinks she will have to wait for labs to be constructed so that the kids going to class 4 now can use them in 3 yrs she needs to explain if their education should first stop.


Laughing out loudly 8-4-4 implementation failed let's not even go there. On this new system, how do you design course books say for grade 1&2 when the kids are actually in class as they waitLaughing out loudly ? That's exactly what happened early this year. Worse still, you develop grade 2 course book, yet you do not have full curriculum for 3-9. The curriculum for entire grade 1-9 need to be developed first so that you are sure the entire program is wholesome, there are no gaps and will produce intended results. And then, the people making noise are complaining about money lost. Nobody is asking whether children are really getting better education or not. And then the cost of implementation. Nobody worked out the cost at the beginning. Imagine that. Govt doesn't have the money



How can it have failed yet it has been in existence for 29 years going to be 30 in 2019. In fact you still want it to continue to be in existence.

844 is expired. It is not in tandem with the new age. Anyone graduating without learning how to use a computer can not claim to be learned. The world moved on, most candidates are obsolete.

And Amina is the problem here, there's a reason guys at MFA threw a party when she left.

This thread not about 8-4-4. It's an imperfect system, but you dont scrap it off and replace with anything...8-4-4 wasnt that bad. But can you respond to real issues regarding 2-6-6-3 roll-out. ION, today there was a multi sect oral seminar of stakeholders and experts in education sector. They noted that 2-6-6-3 was hastily rolled out without adequate planning and recommended that the roll-out be delayed till 2020 to enable govt put the house in order. Am vindicated. I hope they get it right. Am hopeful Amina will do it right this time round



Not that bad,

Failure

What do you want to say?

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
limanika
#49 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:34:04 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 1,979
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
Euge wrote:
So the new system is on hold? SMH


Amina should resign since she's proved to be incompetent . What is needed(or lacks) if the change happens incrementally per year?

There is no way infrastructure can be "built" if the program is not rolling out, since infrastructure improves as challenges are met. Change management in govt is close to 0


She has done the right thing. Better late than never. The whole thing has so many gaps. For instance 1)/the 2018 class 3 do not know whether they're in new system or old system 2) exams, at there'll be no national exam at end of primary? Will they rely on continous assessments over the years? They trust the teachers to give honest marks? You can go on and on..


Continous assessment can be handled by KNEC. Infact I have been informed that Knec has been conducting exams in selected schools mashinani....

Why would you need a lab for class one? Think Limanika you may have been born yesterday and found everything in place for 844 but for those who sat for the first exam in 1989 the infrastructure was done incrementally.

I do not even think Amina's statement is the official stand of govt...we will see.

Laughing out loudly yours truly isnt that young. Now, 8-4-4 implementation plan failed so its not something to emulate. This new system is being rushed. Surely developing curriculum content should be the easiest thing. No way you can develop a curriculum as you implement, the kids will easily outgrow you! Let them develop entire curriculum say for primary level first and address all other teething problems b4 implementing.



844 was very much a success it's failure was that it did not evolve as the world changed.

If Amina thinks she will have to wait for labs to be constructed so that the kids going to class 4 now can use them in 3 yrs she needs to explain if their education should first stop.


Laughing out loudly 8-4-4 implementation failed let's not even go there. On this new system, how do you design course books say for grade 1&2 when the kids are actually in class as they waitLaughing out loudly ? That's exactly what happened early this year. Worse still, you develop grade 2 course book, yet you do not have full curriculum for 3-9. The curriculum for entire grade 1-9 need to be developed first so that you are sure the entire program is wholesome, there are no gaps and will produce intended results. And then, the people making noise are complaining about money lost. Nobody is asking whether children are really getting better education or not. And then the cost of implementation. Nobody worked out the cost at the beginning. Imagine that. Govt doesn't have the money



How can it have failed yet it has been in existence for 29 years going to be 30 in 2019. In fact you still want it to continue to be in existence.

844 is expired. It is not in tandem with the new age. Anyone graduating without learning how to use a computer can not claim to be learned. The world moved on, most candidates are obsolete.

And Amina is the problem here, there's a reason guys at MFA threw a party when she left.

This thread not about 8-4-4. It's an imperfect system, but you dont scrap it off and replace with anything...8-4-4 wasnt that bad. But can you respond to real issues regarding 2-6-6-3 roll-out. ION, today there was a multi sect oral seminar of stakeholders and experts in education sector. They noted that 2-6-6-3 was hastily rolled out without adequate planning and recommended that the roll-out be delayed till 2020 to enable govt put the house in order. Am vindicated. I hope they get it right. Am hopeful Amina will do it right this time round



Not that bad,

Failure

What do you want to say?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
newfarer
#50 Posted : Saturday, January 05, 2019 1:48:25 PM
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amina is a total disaster in the education ministry.
first teachers are being transferred in a random way .and now boys are being admitted in girls school.this may not have happened in the Kenyan education history.

https://mobile.nation.co.ke .the problem is not the system. it is the people. GIGO
punda amecheka
jmbada
#51 Posted : Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:38:19 PM
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Joined: 1/1/2011
Posts: 385
newfarer wrote:
amina is a total disaster in the education ministry.
first teachers are being transferred in a random way .and now boys are being admitted in girls school.this may not have happened in the Kenyan education history.

https://mobile.nation.co.ke .the problem is not the system. it is the people. GIGO

A true flower girl (or "child" to be gender neutral) in my view. 2 major about turns in less than a month.
newfarer
#52 Posted : Sunday, January 06, 2019 12:49:36 AM
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imagine a head teacher being transferred from one school to another and then after 6 months the 'computer' transfers him to another school. teaching 3 schools in a year isn't fun.this is happening.

again you are just 6 months to retirement then the computer selects you for transfer 400km away.I'm not a teacher but teachers can be treated better. if you think sossion is mad just dig deeper.
punda amecheka
murchr
#53 Posted : Sunday, January 06, 2019 2:33:22 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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newfarer wrote:
imagine a head teacher being transferred from one school to another and then after 6 months the 'computer' transfers him to another school. teaching 3 schools in a year isn't fun.this is happening.

again you are just 6 months to retirement then the computer selects you for transfer 400km away.I'm not a teacher but teachers can be treated better. if you think sossion is mad just dig deeper.


You are not right on head teacher tranfers. This is the 2nd round/ yr doing it the first was for national schools and those moved around the country. This round was for county schools and the list out shows movements within the county. Remember these teachers are responsible for form 1 selection and most of them messed up e.g. picked gals in boys schools knowingly so that they can sell the vacancies to the highest bidding parents.

The transfers are being resisted mainly for that reason but to bring an end to this madness TSC should punish those heads who picked kids wrongly otherwise the vice will never end. It happened during Kaimenyis time relaxed during Matiang'i s now back in Amina, tells alot about the leadership.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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newfarer
#54 Posted : Sunday, January 06, 2019 10:56:41 AM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,335
Location: Uganda
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
imagine a head teacher being transferred from one school to another and then after 6 months the 'computer' transfers him to another school. teaching 3 schools in a year isn't fun.this is happening.

again you are just 6 months to retirement then the computer selects you for transfer 400km away.I'm not a teacher but teachers can be treated better. if you think sossion is mad just dig deeper.


You are not right on head teacher tranfers. This is the 2nd round/ yr doing it the first was for national schools and those moved around the country. This round was for county schools and the list out shows movements within the county. Remember these teachers are responsible for form 1 selection and most of them messed up e.g. picked gals in boys schools knowingly so that they can sell the vacancies to the highest bidding parents.

The transfers are being resisted mainly for that reason but to bring an end to this madness TSC should punish those heads who picked kids wrongly otherwise the vice will never end. It happened during Kaimenyis time relaxed during Matiang'i s now back in Amina, tells alot about the leadership.


you see now..I'm talking of primary schools you are talking of secondary schools. Knut mostly has members from primary schools .kuppet speaks for high schools. most numbers are in Knut .there is where teachers are being randomly transferred. I have former school mates who are victims to this random transfers and they are not few in the last 2 years
punda amecheka
murchr
#55 Posted : Sunday, January 06, 2019 7:01:31 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 14,948
newfarer wrote:
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
imagine a head teacher being transferred from one school to another and then after 6 months the 'computer' transfers him to another school. teaching 3 schools in a year isn't fun.this is happening.

again you are just 6 months to retirement then the computer selects you for transfer 400km away.I'm not a teacher but teachers can be treated better. if you think sossion is mad just dig deeper.


You are not right on head teacher tranfers. This is the 2nd round/ yr doing it the first was for national schools and those moved around the country. This round was for county schools and the list out shows movements within the county. Remember these teachers are responsible for form 1 selection and most of them messed up e.g. picked gals in boys schools knowingly so that they can sell the vacancies to the highest bidding parents.

The transfers are being resisted mainly for that reason but to bring an end to this madness TSC should punish those heads who picked kids wrongly otherwise the vice will never end. It happened during Kaimenyis time relaxed during Matiang'i s now back in Amina, tells alot about the leadership.


you see now..I'm talking of primary schools you are talking of secondary schools. Knut mostly has members from primary schools .kuppet speaks for high schools. most numbers are in Knut .there is where teachers are being randomly transferred. I have former school mates who are victims to this random transfers and they are not few in the last 2 years


It's true I have not looked at the Primary schools transfers but since they have the same boss, TSC why should the modus operandi be different? As for KNUT and KUPPET, most secondary school teachers are members of KNUT. KUPPET was a later creation and most teachers don't trust it. But if transfers are being done haphazardly it's wrong.
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kawi254
#56 Posted : Wednesday, January 09, 2019 12:12:04 PM
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for PP2 i find the new CBC syllabus dumbed down. My kid was in KG1 2017 where they learnt to count 1-10, recite A B C D ...KG2 in 2018 and by end year Kiddo could write 1 - 100, can write and read simple sentences.

Enter CBC curriculum and now at PP2 (equivalent of KG3) kid is expected to join dots and count 1 - 10.
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#57 Posted : Wednesday, January 09, 2019 10:14:28 PM
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kawi254 wrote:
for PP2 i find the new CBC syllabus dumbed down. My kid was in KG1 2017 where they learnt to count 1-10, recite A B C D ...KG2 in 2018 and by end year Kiddo could write 1 - 100, can write and read simple sentences.

Enter CBC curriculum and now at PP2 (equivalent of KG3) kid is expected to join dots and count 1 - 10.

I noticed the same. My child is in class 2 and she says the work is too easy. However it's still early. Maybe the system wants all children to grasp the basics thoroughly before moving to new concepts
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#58 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2019 5:06:58 PM
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Ati all 11year olds to be shipped to (boarding) secondary schools under CBC. Just so you can strip KNUT off its members?

Has anyone ever done study why we have much indiscipline in boarding secondary schools and not the day schools.

Could be these kids move to secondary schools when still not mature and now govt wants to reduce the age even further?????
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#59 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2019 5:21:00 PM
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limanika wrote:
Ati all 11year olds to be shipped to (boarding) secondary schools under CBC. Just so you can strip KNUT off its members?

Has anyone ever done study why we have much indiscipline in boarding secondary schools and not the day schools.

Could be these kids move to secondary schools when still not mature and now govt wants to reduce the age even further?????


Kwani KNUT doesnt have Secondary sch teachers?
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limanika
#60 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2019 5:25:28 PM
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murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
Ati all 11year olds to be shipped to (boarding) secondary schools under CBC. Just so you can strip KNUT off its members?

Has anyone ever done study why we have much indiscipline in boarding secondary schools and not the day schools.

Could be these kids move to secondary schools when still not mature and now govt wants to reduce the age even further?????


Kwani KNUT doesnt have Secondary sch teachers?

You dont know most Knut members are primary school teachers? And many secondary school teachers in KUPPET?
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