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Cytonn Investments
eco
#1 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:32:35 PM
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Joined: 6/17/2011
Posts: 229
The growth of Cytonn Investments within the past one year is phenomenal. This is a company to watch for long-term private equity investors like myself. I am on-board!
sparkly
#2 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:54:01 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 6,430
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
eco wrote:
The growth of Cytonn Investments within the past one year is phenomenal. This is a company to watch for long-term private equity investors like myself. I am on-board!


They are very aggressive. Edwin, Arora, Liz seem to know their stuff.
Life is short. Live passionately.
enyands
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 3:58:42 PM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,269
Location: kenya
sparkly wrote:
eco wrote:
The growth of Cytonn Investments within the past one year is phenomenal. This is a company to watch for long-term private equity investors like myself. I am on-board!


They are very aggressive. Edwin, Arora, Liz seem to know their stuff.


What I like about them is that there is a legal contract between the two of you guys, ..unlike FEP,unaitas and others where there is no such.downside is the minimum deposit .they want 1 million minimum deposit. Is there anyone who has experience with these guys
ForSport2
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 5:26:37 PM
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Joined: 12/9/2015
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Location: +254
1m for the CMS or for some other product/investment?
Pesa Nane
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:40:07 PM
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"I get uneasy with picture perfect packages, unless I am in the studio" - Pesa Nane, 30.12.15
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
muganda
#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:00:15 PM
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Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,835
Pesa Nane wrote:
"I get uneasy with picture perfect packages, unless I am in the studio" - Pesa Nane, 30.12.15

I think the 'picture perfect' Transcentury and HomeAfrika have debunked the local chama/property myth d'oh!
enyands
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:11:34 PM
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ForSport2 wrote:
1m for the CMS or for some other product/investment?


It's for cms
Othelo
#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2016 1:48:57 PM
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Joined: 1/20/2014
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muganda wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
"I get uneasy with picture perfect packages, unless I am in the studio" - Pesa Nane, 30.12.15

I think the 'picture perfect' Transcentury and HomeAfrika have debunked the local chama/property myth d'oh!

Especially with a murky past, while the present and future is presented to look beyond excellent smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
KulaRaha
#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2016 2:05:47 PM
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I've seen so many such operators come and go.

A quick google search shows they share offices with lawyers etc. Sounds very dodgy.

Lawrence Holzman
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Greenbelt, MD 20770

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
enyands
#10 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2016 2:54:23 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I've seen so many such operators come and go.

A quick google search shows they share offices with lawyers etc. Sounds very dodgy.

Lawrence Holzman
Greenbelt, MD Bankruptcy Lawyer. 23 years experience
(301) 876-4393
6411 Ivy Lane, Suite 112
Greenbelt, MD 20770



According to you kula raha, Kwa hivyo hii ni moto ya kuotea mbali ama karibu??
KulaRaha
#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2016 3:30:41 PM
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What's their paid up, as in real paid up share capital?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
livie
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:20:24 PM
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Joined: 11/1/2008
Posts: 807
Just had a chat with a representative, claiming 18% pa on investment, and 1week turnaround time for exit, anyone with hard experience please...?
If you are going to be thinking only one thing, you might as well be thinking big. -Donald J . Trump
KulaRaha
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:43:40 PM
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Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,330
SO where do they take that 18% money? Drugs and prostitution?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Runner
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:44:19 PM
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Joined: 3/31/2014
Posts: 24
livie wrote:
Just had a chat with a representative, claiming 18% pa on investment, and 1week turnaround time for exit, anyone with hard experience please...?



See below e-mail received from their business development team. Note the minimum amount required is Kes 1 million.


Good morning and hope this finds you well.

Please note that our current Cytonn Cash Management Solution Interest Rates for this week are as shown below:
For KES
1&3 months:18% p.a
6 months: 18% p.a
12 months: 18% p.a
For USD
3 months: 4% p.a
6 months: 4% p.a
12 months: 4% p.a

In addition to offering a comprehensive lifestyle, The Alma has a compelling proposition from the off-plan purchase with a potential 28% per annum / annualized return.
Our off-plan purchase prices are as follows:

1 Bedroom: Kshs 5.5 mn
2 Bedroom: Kshs 7.5 mn
3 Bedroom: Kshs 9 mn

Thanks and have a good week ahead.

Business Development Team
Chaka
#15 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2016 4:35:17 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,009
Runner wrote:
livie wrote:
Just had a chat with a representative, claiming 18% pa on investment, and 1week turnaround time for exit, anyone with hard experience please...?



See below e-mail received from their business development team. Note the minimum amount required is Kes 1 million.


Good morning and hope this finds you well.

Please note that our current Cytonn Cash Management Solution Interest Rates for this week are as shown below:
For KES
1&3 months:18% p.a
6 months: 18% p.a
12 months: 18% p.a
For USD
3 months: 4% p.a
6 months: 4% p.a
12 months: 4% p.a

In addition to offering a comprehensive lifestyle, The Alma has a compelling proposition from the off-plan purchase with a potential 28% per annum / annualized return.
Our off-plan purchase prices are as follows:

1 Bedroom: Kshs 5.5 mn
2 Bedroom: Kshs 7.5 mn
3 Bedroom: Kshs 9 mn

Thanks and have a good week ahead.

Business Development Team

When was the email sent?Are you sure it was not sent last year when the T-Bill rates went haywire?The next best as I see it it at 11% for 1 month and 13 % for 3 months.What do these guys know that established players don't ?
maka
#16 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2016 4:50:06 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,744
Location: Nairobi
Chaka wrote:
Runner wrote:
livie wrote:
Just had a chat with a representative, claiming 18% pa on investment, and 1week turnaround time for exit, anyone with hard experience please...?



See below e-mail received from their business development team. Note the minimum amount required is Kes 1 million.


Good morning and hope this finds you well.

Please note that our current Cytonn Cash Management Solution Interest Rates for this week are as shown below:
For KES
1&3 months:18% p.a
6 months: 18% p.a
12 months: 18% p.a
For USD
3 months: 4% p.a
6 months: 4% p.a
12 months: 4% p.a

In addition to offering a comprehensive lifestyle, The Alma has a compelling proposition from the off-plan purchase with a potential 28% per annum / annualized return.
Our off-plan purchase prices are as follows:

1 Bedroom: Kshs 5.5 mn
2 Bedroom: Kshs 7.5 mn
3 Bedroom: Kshs 9 mn

Thanks and have a good week ahead.

Business Development Team

When was the email sent?Are you sure it was not sent last year when the T-Bill rates went haywire?The next best as I see it it at 11% for 1 month and 13 % for 3 months.What do these guys know that established players don't ?


Talked to them on Monday it's 18%pa all through the different tenors
possunt quia posse videntur
Chaka
#17 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 3:17:08 PM
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Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,009
maka wrote:

Talked to them on Monday it's 18%pa all through the different tenors

Could these other asset managers be taking cash to Cytonn and then paying us peanuts?
maka
#18 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 3:47:45 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,744
Location: Nairobi
Chaka wrote:
maka wrote:

Talked to them on Monday it's 18%pa all through the different tenors

Could these other asset managers be taking cash to Cytonn and then paying us peanuts?



yes sir...I believe so.
possunt quia posse videntur
Mainat
#19 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 6:49:07 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/21/2006
Posts: 1,582
These guys developed the very popular Britam CMS product.
It's a profitable product for Britam, but you need very good treasury management.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
Chaka
#20 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:59:28 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,009
Mainat wrote:
These guys developed the very popular Britam CMS product.
It's a profitable product for Britam, but you need very good treasury management.

Other insurance companies have a competing product.Initially one had to have KSh 5M to invest in that product.Looks like competition made them lower that to KSh 1M.
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