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William Ruto is NOT going to be President in 2022
AlphDoti
#661 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2019 10:07:41 AM
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mpobiz wrote:
Allow me to share this article. Copy pasted
Via Hon Agustino Neto

It is Easter Monday, the Lord has arisen! Those who lay Easter eggs, some have hatched, maybe mine hatched too?
My sister Millie Mabona for whom I have a lot of tremendous respect, who I look up to, not just in politics, in the legal profession, as a legislator and as a sibling since we literally grew up together in Homabay town, together with my good friend Lee Makwiny have drawn me into a debate regarding statements I made in Baringo South on Saturday. They have in return posted Hon Ruto’s Video, which they allege refers to luo’s in derogatory terms and spews hate.
First, for the record and in case it is important, I was born a luo and am luo. My Paternal grandfather, Ligawa Chieng Opendo son of Ojuando was luo. My maternal grandfather Awino Jela wuod Oduo was luo, so suffice it to say, am LUO! But my socialization, my schooling and travels have made me Kenyan, so amongst other things I married out of the Luo tribe, and my social as well as professional cycles is a melange of the citizens of Kenya. God has been gracious to me, I have travelled and worked across the world, so I have made friends across the globe, who I owe a duty of responsibility with each and every move I make, as they have allowed me into their spaces to make me what I am. So, I would not for a second make cursory idle statements that are ill- informed and not intentioned!
Second, On the Hon Ruto Video, he says in an apparent reference to the Luo, that they are ‘watu wa kubomoa’(they are destructive). If we are not destroying houses, I want to imagine he was referring to coalitions or political parties, then we are removing rails. An honest luo would know that all the above is true. Follow the Luo anywhere, to a political function, to a concert, to a football match and you appreciate it this way, and by the way, it is not just Hon Ruto who thinks of us this way, many Kenyans do. We either make it our brand if it is a good brand to sell, but if we seem ashamed of it, like it is almost showing, then we choose a better brand. So I would thank DP Ruto, for showing the Luos the speck in their eye. Whatever we do with it is our business, unfortunate as it is that they came from his excellency the deputy President himself.
Third, on my comments in Baringo- South.
1) 2013 in Bondo at the Hon Ochanda’s home coming party, I was an MP then, I told the luo MPs present that it would be a tall order to beat Uhuruto in 2017, Not because Hon Raila was not popular, no! because there was need to change tact in the face of statecraft. The luos in their destructive nature are too intelligent to listen, I was branded a mole, accused of being a jubilee sympathiser and working for Uhuruto, and the list was long the only thing I remember now is 2017 sure came to pass.

2) If a luo wants to be President, there has a been a tried and almost sure path, working together with other tribes in unity and honesty, starting with the Kalenjin. And that path brought Hon Raila close to the Presidency. Any other method: China SGR Loans, Handshake, Swearing in, IEBC must go, OKOA Kenya are FADS. And if you (we) Luos were to continue this way and Hon Raila was to be in the ballot box in 2022 for President I can already announce the Results and the reaction that will follow is this “This election has been rigged! IEBC must go, Chebukati must go! Let us have a referendum” and then of course the cycle will continue and it is 2027, 2032 until Armageddon.

3) Baringo last Saturday, I made PRO- RUTO statements. By the way, I don’t Know what Hon Ruto stands for in terms of political ideology. When I quit ODM in 2017 I since subscribe to GREEN POLITICS which believes in a set of Principles and values, rule of law, integrity, ecological wisdom, equity, future focus, feminism, Non violence, amongst others, I doubt Hon Ruto subscribes to these given how he conducts his affairs. My Statements were selfish to the extent that I hope Hon Ruto can help us collapse the statequo. Where Kenya is, we can only remedy it by getting to have the statesquo collapsed! Some luos have interpreted it that I went to ask for Hand outs or seek for some job, now they are entitled to their thoughts. If I wanted handouts in my view, I would have driven to the DP office which is a few minutes from my house or accompanied him to some rally and danced myself lame

4) Hon Raila has tried to help collapse the statequo twice in 2007/2008, 2017/2018 when there were electoral malpractices. In 2007/2008 You know when the statusquo was about to curve in, he ended up at Sagana state Lodge, whatever he discussed there to the chagrin of his many supporters, he birthed the nusu mkate government. In 2017/2018 when his supporters were even returning teargas for teargas, and forming human shields for him and the statesquo was about to curve in, to the chagrin of his supporters, he moved into harambee House and behold the Handshake! So, evidence manifests that it cannot be Hon Raila who will help collapse the statesquo for Kenyan’s revival, for indeed the country needs revival from the corruption, Unemployment, tribalism, the moral decadence, the debt, and the list is endless. Hon Raila has shown that when we are about to bell the cat…..something creeps in and we make a turn around.
5) My sister Millie, you know that if I did not stand for something, I would be a Member of Parliament now. It was not difficult to sing Tibiim, Tibiim, And Tialala, I refused to be part of that spell and you know this is the only part of your advice that I defied? I saw it then as it is now, a path to nowhere. I grew up an orphan, I cannot misuse other unfortunate Kenyans for my own selfish aggrandisement when the path is taking us nowhere. In my own home County of Homa Bay, am hoping that Tibiim can help them have a mortuary to preserve the dead. We have nothing else left of us, poverty, malnourishment, illiteracy, we stare at death everyday because of poor leadership, so I hope that, in all these we can at least preserve the bodies of our dead in dignity, the mortuary at HomaBay level 5 hospital is rat infested, goring corpses body parts and you want me to cheer the SGR to Kisumu on China debt? I am happy in this space, I will bid time here. If I were to be re-elected with my independence of mind well and good, if my independence of mind relegates me to making statements at Memorials in places like Baringo South, I will continue quaffing my cup with gladness.
6) Why do I think making pro- Ruto statements would help us collapse the statusquo? This country is full of pretentious leaders and a directionless electorate. Hon Ruto has been accused of theft, which could be true and many other ills, but am sure the same can be said of these other top ranking leaders. Name any without blemish? So, Character and morality ceases to be the yardstick for leadership, otherwise you know too well that half the National Assembly cannot stand? Am hoping that Kenyans will wake up one day when we have eaten everything and we can only eat ourselves, that there will be corpses all over the place and dogs eating corpses and that because we have nothing to eat, we will eat those dogs eating corpses. My Pro- Ruto statements are tongue in cheek hoping he can help us prolong this war that will lead to statesquo Collapse. Cheering the apparent weak side to keep them on. We have pretended for so long. Once we collapse the statusquo then we can work on National re-awakening when there is nothing to share, our ports will have been auctioned by the Chinese, our debt burden spiralled, our youth heavily radicalized due to unemployment then we can start having honest conversations on rebuilding the state. If this path of collapsing the statusquo is not going to work, then another path must be found, and that other path is what we greens hope we can find, in the meantime, Hon Ruto should visit Nyanza and ask for votes! As a comrade in arms.
I hope my easter eggs have hatched?

Wah! This is a tough one!
hardwood
#662 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:50:53 PM
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TBT. Siasa ya kenya ni kali.....






freiks
#663 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 9:19:11 AM
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Currently as it stands WSR 3:0 Others, this is game is well dusted unless if it turns out like that Arsenal vs Newcastle that stood at 4:0 by halftime and ended at 4:4
Life is an endless adventure
masukuma
#664 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 9:48:06 AM
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hardwood wrote:
TBT. Siasa ya kenya ni kali.....







Yes... Chungwa!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
kaka2za
#665 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 11:12:54 AM
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freiks wrote:
Currently as it stands WSR 3:0 Others, this is game is well dusted unless if it turns out like that Arsenal vs Newcastle that stood at 4:0 by halftime and ended at 4:4



It will finish 3-5 like Tottenham vs Man utd in 2001
Glenn Hoddle's men found themselves 3-0 ahead at half-time However, United staged a remarkable second-half comeback scored five times without reply
Angelica _ann
#666 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 11:24:27 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
freiks wrote:
Currently as it stands WSR 3:0 Others, this is game is well dusted unless if it turns out like that Arsenal vs Newcastle that stood at 4:0 by halftime and ended at 4:4



It will finish 3-5 like Tottenham vs Man utd in 2001
Glenn Hoddle's men found themselves 3-0 ahead at half-time However, United staged a remarkable second-half comeback scored five times without reply


Ruto just won the Wajir West by elections. So far he has won Ugenya, Embakasi ... and Wajir West. Ruto 3, Baba 0 smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
freiks
#667 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 11:57:30 AM
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hardwood wrote:
TBT. Siasa ya kenya ni kali.....








In this photo, Kamelon hana chungwa, Uhunye ameshikilia poa, RAO amekamatia chini, WSR amechoka na akaweka chini
Life is an endless adventure
KulaRaha
#668 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 12:35:02 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:

Ruto just won the Wajir West by elections. So far he has won Ugenya, Embakasi ... and Wajir West. Ruto 3, Baba 0 smile


Is it

Ruto vs Baba

or

Ruto vs Uthamaki?

I think you are confusing the players...which is what TTT want.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
2012
#669 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 1:58:41 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:

Ruto just won the Wajir West by elections. So far he has won Ugenya, Embakasi ... and Wajir West. Ruto 3, Baba 0 smile


Is it

Ruto vs Baba

or

Ruto vs Uthamaki?

I think you are confusing the players...which is what TTT want.


Boss, uthamaki season ended after the handshake.
Now we're in Kieleweke/Tangatanga season.

Catch the Soap Opera everyday at 7 and 9pm in all local stations.

Stand for something or you will fall for anything. Today's mighty oak is yesterday's nut that held its ground. Rosa Parks
KulaRaha
#670 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 2:02:02 PM
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2012 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:

Ruto just won the Wajir West by elections. So far he has won Ugenya, Embakasi ... and Wajir West. Ruto 3, Baba 0 smile


Is it

Ruto vs Baba

or

Ruto vs Uthamaki?

I think you are confusing the players...which is what TTT want.


Boss, uthamaki season ended after the handshake.
Now we're in Kieleweke/Tangatanga season.

Catch the Soap Opera everyday at 7 and 9pm in all local stations.


I think Uthamaki is very much in play....most people just can't see the forest because of the trees.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
mpobiz
#671 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 2:38:52 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
2012 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:

Ruto just won the Wajir West by elections. So far he has won Ugenya, Embakasi ... and Wajir West. Ruto 3, Baba 0 smile


Is it

Ruto vs Baba

or

Ruto vs Uthamaki?

I think you are confusing the players...which is what TTT want.


Boss, uthamaki season ended after the handshake.
Now we're in Kieleweke/Tangatanga season.

Catch the Soap Opera everyday at 7 and 9pm in all local stations.


I think Uthamaki is very much in play....most people just can't see the forest because of the trees.


We are the uthamaki. And today uthamaki is team tangatanga. Brace yourself for the next 3years mtajua hamjui
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Kusadikika
#672 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2019 10:52:46 PM
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Sasa nani anaiba mayai ya Deputy president?
hardwood
#673 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:58:56 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Sasa nani anaiba mayai ya Deputy president?


Hehe huko twitter they are saying he forgot they were his eggs and went ahead and took them.
Njunge
#674 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:52:55 AM
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mpobiz wrote:
[quote=KulaRaha][quote=2012][quote=KulaRaha][quote

We are the uthamaki. And today uthamaki is team tangatanga. Brace yourself for the next 3years mtajua hamjui



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly... You are ripe for your own comedy show.
Njunge
#675 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:24:14 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Sasa nani anaiba mayai ya Deputy president?


Kudos to those arrested for attempting to recover stolen Kenyan assets. You are my heroes!
KulaRaha
#676 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:57:02 AM
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Njunge wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
[quote=KulaRaha][quote=2012][quote=KulaRaha][quote

We are the uthamaki. And today uthamaki is team tangatanga. Brace yourself for the next 3years mtajua hamjui



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly... You are ripe for your own comedy show.


Either that, or he needs olanzapine.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
tycho
#677 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 1:25:18 PM
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Could Ruto then be PM in 2022? Then Baba becomes President.

In Kenya we're not supposed to have 'winner takes it all scenarios'.

So, what will Ruto get then?

Ama at that time, it will be okay for the winner to take it all?
Njunge
#678 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 2:32:09 PM
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tycho wrote:
Could Ruto then be PM in 2022? Then Baba becomes President.

In Kenya we're not supposed to have 'winner takes it all scenarios'.

So, what will Ruto get then?

Ama at that time, it will be okay for the winner to take it all?


Is it a must he gets something? I doubt...
. Oooh, he will get back his eggssmile
tycho
#679 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 4:34:06 PM
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Njunge wrote:
tycho wrote:
Could Ruto then be PM in 2022? Then Baba becomes President.

In Kenya we're not supposed to have 'winner takes it all scenarios'.

So, what will Ruto get then?

Ama at that time, it will be okay for the winner to take it all?


Is it a must he gets something? I doubt...
. Oooh, he will get back his eggssmile


Ehe, imagine Kenya amending her constitution so that a few people may never lose everything...
mpobiz
#680 Posted : Wednesday, May 01, 2019 10:32:21 AM
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tycho wrote:
Njunge wrote:
tycho wrote:
Could Ruto then be PM in 2022? Then Baba becomes President.

In Kenya we're not supposed to have 'winner takes it all scenarios'.

So, what will Ruto get then?

Ama at that time, it will be okay for the winner to take it all?


Is it a must he gets something? I doubt...
. Oooh, he will get back his eggssmile


Ehe, imagine Kenya amending her constitution so that a few people may never lose everything...


This is useless talk. I am sorry to burst your bubble. There will not be a referendum any time soon. I don't know what you mean that a winner takes all.Kenyans must learn to unite in political parties. All parties must strive to show that they are the face of kenya. Like the way jubilee has set an example.we are truly a national party. Even the way the government is constituted today shows a lot on how democracy works.
An all inclusive government can only be achieved by a unified party that eventually forms a government. Not by including election loosers. If that's the case we are supposed to build a kasarani like parliament where loosers sit on one side and winners in the other. The same done on county governments and even chiefs and DOs.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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