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Treasury Bills and Bonds
maka
#1481 Posted : Tuesday, June 29, 2021 1:04:56 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,462
Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Dear Investor, your COUPON for Issue FXD2/2018/010 has been Paid to your Bank Account No ending ...4019 on 14-06-2021


I received this message yesterday but it has not reflected yet in my account.
Normally when you get the message,it's always in the account.Today is very different.



Wololo ... Govt is broke... True they do not delay payments ever.



@Maka,what's wrong with CBK this time? I have not seen anything in my account yet despite getting the message on Monday.


Maka is an insider at CBK



I have called them.They say it's a system error.Money will come on Monday.


Was the credit effected @Ebenyo?


Not yet.i tried to call them but it was not going through.


I managed to talk with the person who pays today.The issue has been solved and I have got my interest.
There was a delay on the part of my bank.So no blame on CBK.they sent interest on time.
Which bank is this?


Co-asking....Very weird behaviour.
possunt quia posse videntur
Ericsson
#1482 Posted : Tuesday, June 29, 2021 7:31:28 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 9,844
Location: NAIROBI
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Dear Investor, your COUPON for Issue FXD2/2018/010 has been Paid to your Bank Account No ending ...4019 on 14-06-2021


I received this message yesterday but it has not reflected yet in my account.
Normally when you get the message,it's always in the account.Today is very different.



Wololo ... Govt is broke... True they do not delay payments ever.



@Maka,what's wrong with CBK this time? I have not seen anything in my account yet despite getting the message on Monday.


Maka is an insider at CBK



I have called them.They say it's a system error.Money will come on Monday.


Was the credit effected @Ebenyo?


Not yet.i tried to call them but it was not going through.


I managed to talk with the person who pays today.The issue has been solved and I have got my interest.
There was a delay on the part of my bank.So no blame on CBK.they sent interest on time.
Which bank is this?


Co-asking....Very weird behaviour.

Post Bank Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#1483 Posted : Tuesday, June 29, 2021 8:00:29 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 9,844
Location: NAIROBI
https://www.businessdail...at-sh50-billion-3453090

Bonds whose tenor is more than 5 years the minimum threshold is ksh.75bn
Bonds less than 5 years threshold is ksh.50bn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#1484 Posted : Sunday, July 04, 2021 9:59:23 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,462
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/bond-issuance-threshold-to-be-set-at-sh50-billion-3453090

Bonds whose tenor is more than 5 years the minimum threshold is ksh.75bn
Bonds less than 5 years threshold is ksh.50bn



possunt quia posse videntur
Ebenyo
#1485 Posted : Sunday, July 04, 2021 10:21:19 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 1,980
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Dear Investor, your COUPON for Issue FXD2/2018/010 has been Paid to your Bank Account No ending ...4019 on 14-06-2021


I received this message yesterday but it has not reflected yet in my account.
Normally when you get the message,it's always in the account.Today is very different.



Wololo ... Govt is broke... True they do not delay payments ever.



@Maka,what's wrong with CBK this time? I have not seen anything in my account yet despite getting the message on Monday.


Maka is an insider at CBK



I have called them.They say it's a system error.Money will come on Monday.


Was the credit effected @Ebenyo?


Not yet.i tried to call them but it was not going through.


I managed to talk with the person who pays today.The issue has been solved and I have got my interest.
There was a delay on the part of my bank.So no blame on CBK.they sent interest on time.
Which bank is this?


Co-asking....Very weird behaviour.

Post Bank Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Towards the goal of financial freedom
pops
#1486 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2021 3:20:11 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 9/13/2006
Posts: 122
Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#1487 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2021 4:42:15 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,160
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
pops wrote:
Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline.


Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department)
Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off.
Markets
pops
#1488 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2021 8:58:21 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 9/13/2006
Posts: 122
Asante Sana.
sparkly
#1489 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2021 5:14:30 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,997
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
pops wrote:
Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline.


Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department)
Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off.


Very helpful.
Life is short. Live passionately.
AndyC
#1490 Posted : Thursday, July 29, 2021 4:35:47 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 4/21/2015
Posts: 148
sparkly wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
pops wrote:
Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline.


Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department)
Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off.


Very helpful.


How does one send in an application for bonds online?
maka
#1491 Posted : Sunday, August 22, 2021 12:44:44 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,462
Location: Nairobi
Christmas comes early.... Longest IFB ... Please please if you have a CBK acc please purchase this... It will be good for secondary trading.

https://www.centralbank....0DATED%2013-09-2021.pdf





possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#1492 Posted : Sunday, August 22, 2021 12:50:33 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,462
Location: Nairobi
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
pops wrote:
Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline.


Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department)
Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off.



The receiving bank is CBK...

The receiving account number is your virtual account no at CBK.

On the narration bit : Add the Issue no e.g FXD 1/2021/20 plus Application number: The one that you get on text or on the bond bidders report you get email.... You can request the bond bidders report by emailing CBK using this address.... primaryissues@centralbank.go.ke
possunt quia posse videntur
My 2 cents
#1493 Posted : Monday, August 23, 2021 7:01:14 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/2/2010
Posts: 610
I have been investing in the NSE for close to 20 years and my effective return rate is less than 10% including dividends. I know we are in a never ending bear market but the irony is not lost on me that had I been purchasing long dated bonds, I would have better returns. So much for stock for the long run. In Kenya the vast population invests in Real Estate and that where the price appreciation is due to demand.
Queen
#1494 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2021 7:13:33 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 475
Location: Britain
maka wrote:
Christmas comes early.... Longest IFB ... Please please if you have a CBK acc please purchase this... It will be good for secondary trading.

https://www.centralbank....0DATED%2013-09-2021.pdf







Thanks Maka for your thumbs-up on this IFB. What is your prediction on the market determined coupon rate?
My 2 cents
#1495 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2021 8:34:30 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/2/2010
Posts: 610
10.10% - tax free
maka
#1496 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2021 8:46:05 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,462
Location: Nairobi
Queen wrote:
maka wrote:
Christmas comes early.... Longest IFB ... Please please if you have a CBK acc please purchase this... It will be good for secondary trading.

https://www.centralbank....0DATED%2013-09-2021.pdf







Thanks Maka for your thumps-up on this IFB. What is your prediction on the market determined coupon rate?


Upwards of 12.50% - 12.70%

Too much liquidity in the market. This will be oversubscribed like crazy... There has been a huge upsurge of uncompetitive bids during primary auctions this will play a big part on how the competitive bids will eventually be cast... Most guys will prefer not to be too aggressive so that you don't miss out.

They might squeeze auction bid rates take a smaller amount than the 75 Bn then do a tap sale.... If this happens the drop in rates for the other IFBs will massively shift downwards...
possunt quia posse videntur
Queen
#1497 Posted : Tuesday, August 24, 2021 11:52:18 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 475
Location: Britain
maka wrote:
Queen wrote:
maka wrote:
Christmas comes early.... Longest IFB ... Please please if you have a CBK acc please purchase this... It will be good for secondary trading.

https://www.centralbank....0DATED%2013-09-2021.pdf







Thanks Maka for your thumps-up on this IFB. What is your prediction on the market determined coupon rate?


Upwards of 12.50% - 12.70%

Too much liquidity in the market. This will be oversubscribed like crazy... There has been a huge upsurge of uncompetitive bids during primary auctions this will play a big part on how the competitive bids will eventually be cast... Most guys will prefer not to be too aggressive so that you don't miss out.

They might squeeze auction bid rates take a smaller amount than the 75 Bn then do a tap sale.... If this happens the drop in rates for the other IFBs will massively shift downwards...


Thank you.
Ebenyo
#1498 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2021 11:24:53 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 1,980
Location: Kitale
Interest for paper no FXD 1/2020/015 has checked in
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Tokyo
#1499 Posted : Saturday, September 04, 2021 10:29:00 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 10/9/2006
Posts: 1,492
AndyC wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
pops wrote:
Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline.


Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department)
Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off.


Very helpful.


How does one send in an application for bonds online?


Do you have a CBK CDS account and in Diaspora ,? Download application form from CBK website,fill it and email to NDO@centralbank.go.ke.
work to prosper
maka
#1500 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2021 1:13:51 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,462
Location: Nairobi
Tokyo wrote:
AndyC wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
pops wrote:
Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline.


Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department)
Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off.


Very helpful.


How does one send in an application for bonds online?


Do you have a CBK CDS account and in Diaspora ,? Download application form from CBK website,fill it and email to NDO@centralbank.go.ke.


Please make sure you have an efficient bank to process the payment if you are successful with your bid or you will have to do a proper explanation as to why you weren't able to pay on time... A few hours to go... Throw in your applications.
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