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Kenya Power FY 2017/2018
Extraterrestrial
#321 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:16:11 PM
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So I gather that these are new customers.

Marginal cost and marginal revenue? @KuanganaDoDo
KaunganaDoDo
#322 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:18:32 PM
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Superprime1 wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
New tariffs, gazetted by the industry’s regulator on Friday sees commercial and industrial consumers metered by Kenya Power at 220,000 volts per post-paid billing period pay Ksh.7.99 for every unit consumed.
Consumers will further account for a lesser Ksh.3.99 for each unit of power consumed outside peak hours with the demand charge per kilovolt amperes (kVA) being set at Ksh.200.


https://citizentv.co.ke/...-adjustment-320050/?amp


Currently the highest voltage supplied to customers is at 132KV...So a new cheaper tariff has been developed for supply to new and existing customers at 22KV...There is a catch however, to be eligible, customers will need a minimum demand of 40MWh...

Similarly a new tariff for Naivasha Special Economic Zone has been developed at Ksh 5 /kWh.....which is a third of the current cheapest tariff for existing manufacturers...In all these, KPLC is eating Unleavened Bread!!!!


"Unleavened Bread"!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @KaungaNaBeans you're hilarious! Could you expound further, please...


Unleaven Bread tastes flat, ni kama tuu Matumbo ya kuku....Anyway the winners here are The Manufacturers and landowners in Naivasha... KPLC will eat with the Children. Though most of the KenGen Plants at Olkaria will have to be reviewed to accommodate the 5bob tariffs
KaunganaDoDo
#323 Posted : Monday, February 17, 2020 4:36:47 PM
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Joined: 8/6/2018
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
New tariffs, gazetted by the industry’s regulator on Friday sees commercial and industrial consumers metered by Kenya Power at 220,000 volts per post-paid billing period pay Ksh.7.99 for every unit consumed.
Consumers will further account for a lesser Ksh.3.99 for each unit of power consumed outside peak hours with the demand charge per kilovolt amperes (kVA) being set at Ksh.200.


https://citizentv.co.ke/...-adjustment-320050/?amp


Currently the highest voltage supplied to customers is at 132KV...So a new cheaper tariff has been developed for supply to new and existing customers at 22KV...There is a catch however, to be eligible, customers will need a minimum demand of 40MWh...

Similarly a new tariff for Naivasha Special Economic Zone has been developed at Ksh 5 /kWh.....which is a third of the current cheapest tariff for existing manufacturers...In all these, KPLC is eating Unleavened Bread!!!!


"Unleavened Bread"!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @KaungaNaBeans you're hilarious! Could you expound further, please...


Unleaven Bread tastes flat, ni kama tuu Matumbo ya kuku....Anyway the winners here are The Manufacturers and landowners in Naivasha... KPLC will eat with the Children. Though most of the KenGen Plants at Olkaria will have to be reviewed to accommodate the 5bob tariffs


The Time has Come, next week FY and H1...Sasa tafuteni Tissue Paper
Ericsson
#324 Posted : Monday, February 17, 2020 4:45:36 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 8,070
Location: NAIROBI
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
New tariffs, gazetted by the industry’s regulator on Friday sees commercial and industrial consumers metered by Kenya Power at 220,000 volts per post-paid billing period pay Ksh.7.99 for every unit consumed.
Consumers will further account for a lesser Ksh.3.99 for each unit of power consumed outside peak hours with the demand charge per kilovolt amperes (kVA) being set at Ksh.200.


https://citizentv.co.ke/...-adjustment-320050/?amp


Currently the highest voltage supplied to customers is at 132KV...So a new cheaper tariff has been developed for supply to new and existing customers at 22KV...There is a catch however, to be eligible, customers will need a minimum demand of 40MWh...

Similarly a new tariff for Naivasha Special Economic Zone has been developed at Ksh 5 /kWh.....which is a third of the current cheapest tariff for existing manufacturers...In all these, KPLC is eating Unleavened Bread!!!!


"Unleavened Bread"!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @KaungaNaBeans you're hilarious! Could you expound further, please...


Unleaven Bread tastes flat, ni kama tuu Matumbo ya kuku....Anyway the winners here are The Manufacturers and landowners in Naivasha... KPLC will eat with the Children. Though most of the KenGen Plants at Olkaria will have to be reviewed to accommodate the 5bob tariffs


The Time has Come, next week FY and H1...Sasa tafuteni Tissue Paper

Hiyo loss before tax won't be a joke
KaunganaDoDo
#325 Posted : Monday, February 17, 2020 5:17:35 PM
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Joined: 8/6/2018
Posts: 228
Ericsson wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
New tariffs, gazetted by the industry’s regulator on Friday sees commercial and industrial consumers metered by Kenya Power at 220,000 volts per post-paid billing period pay Ksh.7.99 for every unit consumed.
Consumers will further account for a lesser Ksh.3.99 for each unit of power consumed outside peak hours with the demand charge per kilovolt amperes (kVA) being set at Ksh.200.


https://citizentv.co.ke/...-adjustment-320050/?amp


Currently the highest voltage supplied to customers is at 132KV...So a new cheaper tariff has been developed for supply to new and existing customers at 22KV...There is a catch however, to be eligible, customers will need a minimum demand of 40MWh...

Similarly a new tariff for Naivasha Special Economic Zone has been developed at Ksh 5 /kWh.....which is a third of the current cheapest tariff for existing manufacturers...In all these, KPLC is eating Unleavened Bread!!!!


"Unleavened Bread"!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @KaungaNaBeans you're hilarious! Could you expound further, please...


Unleaven Bread tastes flat, ni kama tuu Matumbo ya kuku....Anyway the winners here are The Manufacturers and landowners in Naivasha... KPLC will eat with the Children. Though most of the KenGen Plants at Olkaria will have to be reviewed to accommodate the 5bob tariffs


The Time has Come, next week FY and H1...Sasa tafuteni Tissue Paper

Hiyo loss before tax won't be a joke


No , situation has been managed with Writeback...something small for the oldman
KaunganaDoDo
#326 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:21:12 AM
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Joined: 8/6/2018
Posts: 228
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
New tariffs, gazetted by the industry’s regulator on Friday sees commercial and industrial consumers metered by Kenya Power at 220,000 volts per post-paid billing period pay Ksh.7.99 for every unit consumed.
Consumers will further account for a lesser Ksh.3.99 for each unit of power consumed outside peak hours with the demand charge per kilovolt amperes (kVA) being set at Ksh.200.


https://citizentv.co.ke/...-adjustment-320050/?amp


Currently the highest voltage supplied to customers is at 132KV...So a new cheaper tariff has been developed for supply to new and existing customers at 22KV...There is a catch however, to be eligible, customers will need a minimum demand of 40MWh...

Similarly a new tariff for Naivasha Special Economic Zone has been developed at Ksh 5 /kWh.....which is a third of the current cheapest tariff for existing manufacturers...In all these, KPLC is eating Unleavened Bread!!!!


"Unleavened Bread"!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @KaungaNaBeans you're hilarious! Could you expound further, please...


Unleaven Bread tastes flat, ni kama tuu Matumbo ya kuku....Anyway the winners here are The Manufacturers and landowners in Naivasha... KPLC will eat with the Children. Though most of the KenGen Plants at Olkaria will have to be reviewed to accommodate the 5bob tariffs


The Time has Come, next week FY and H1...Sasa tafuteni Tissue Paper


FY 2018/19 profit before tax drops from Ksh 4.968 billion to Ksh 334 million...PAT reduced from Ksh 3.268 billion to Ksh 262 million...
VituVingiSana
#327 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:36:59 AM
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Nothing on the website https://www.kplc.co.ke/c.../view/71/trading-results
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Fyatu
#328 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:59:13 AM
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Posts: 1,701
Location: Nakuru
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
New tariffs, gazetted by the industry’s regulator on Friday sees commercial and industrial consumers metered by Kenya Power at 220,000 volts per post-paid billing period pay Ksh.7.99 for every unit consumed.
Consumers will further account for a lesser Ksh.3.99 for each unit of power consumed outside peak hours with the demand charge per kilovolt amperes (kVA) being set at Ksh.200.


https://citizentv.co.ke/...-adjustment-320050/?amp


Currently the highest voltage supplied to customers is at 132KV...So a new cheaper tariff has been developed for supply to new and existing customers at 22KV...There is a catch however, to be eligible, customers will need a minimum demand of 40MWh...

Similarly a new tariff for Naivasha Special Economic Zone has been developed at Ksh 5 /kWh.....which is a third of the current cheapest tariff for existing manufacturers...In all these, KPLC is eating Unleavened Bread!!!!


"Unleavened Bread"!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @KaungaNaBeans you're hilarious! Could you expound further, please...


Unleaven Bread tastes flat, ni kama tuu Matumbo ya kuku....Anyway the winners here are The Manufacturers and landowners in Naivasha... KPLC will eat with the Children. Though most of the KenGen Plants at Olkaria will have to be reviewed to accommodate the 5bob tariffs


The Time has Come, next week FY and H1...Sasa tafuteni Tissue Paper


FY 2018/19 profit before tax drops from Ksh 4.968 billion to Ksh 334 million...PAT reduced from Ksh 3.268 billion to Ksh 262 million...



Do we expect a turnaround in profits going forward or are we staring at a Mumias Sugar and/or KQ or EAPC kind of situation?
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
mwekez@ji
#329 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:09:02 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:


here





VituVingiSana
#330 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:18:22 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


here






Thanks. The FY is substantially lower than HY.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
lochaz-index
#331 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:23:08 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


here






Thanks. The FY is substantially lower than HY.

What explains the jumbo spike in non-fuel costs?
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
VituVingiSana
#332 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:37:50 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


here






Thanks. The FY is substantially lower than HY.

What explains the jumbo spike in non-fuel costs?
Little detail provided in the commentary except for the commissioning of 360MW plants. Is this a one-off cost?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
watesh
#333 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:01:08 AM
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Those finance costs are chewing up this company. They are even growing faster than revenue
Ericsson
#334 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:02:41 AM
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watesh wrote:
Those finance costs are chewing up this company. They are even growing faster than revenue

Overdrafts and short term loans to sustain operations
lochaz-index
#335 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:47:37 AM
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watesh wrote:
Those finance costs are chewing up this company. They are even growing faster than revenue

More worrying is the increasing negative working capital YoY. This one will need a bailout in the not so distant future.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
mlennyma
#336 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:53:13 AM
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A monopoly under siege
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mlennyma
#337 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:54:27 AM
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A monopoly under siege,one of my worst investment decisions to be owning it
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ericsson
#338 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:55:56 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
watesh wrote:
Those finance costs are chewing up this company. They are even growing faster than revenue

More worrying is the increasing negative working capital YoY. This one will need a bailout in the not so distant future.

Bailout by GoK in the current economic environment is tough.
Angelica _ann
#339 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:59:51 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
watesh wrote:
Those finance costs are chewing up this company. They are even growing faster than revenue

More worrying is the increasing negative working capital YoY. This one will need a bailout in the not so distant future.

Bailout by GoK in the current economic environment is tough.


The finance costs had manifested themselves over the last 2 financial statements. Knowing how this company is run with its capital intensive and high cost infrastructure requirements and maintenance/replacement costs,things will be tough going forward. keep away, lessons learnt from ARM smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Extraterrestrial
#340 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 12:02:06 PM
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They have capacity for internal bailout by cutting CapEx (Sh20 billion last - down by half a dozen billion).
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