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Angelica _ann
#101 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2019 10:59:30 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 10,867
AlphDoti wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship.


Surely even where you live your neighbors and larger community would be greatly offended if you were "to share your private life" with a goat i.e. bestiality, or if you kept some huge snake or other animal to be worshiping in your own unique rituals. Therefore your personal freedom to love and worship has boundaries which are dictated by strange humans who are called the society.

I thought this should be simple and straightforward. An proper acceptable relationship has 2 or more consenting mentally stable adults. A goat /animal therefore is ruled out.
You are free to worship or not to if you don’t interfere with others freedom. A Japanese eating a crab πŸ¦€ or a Kenya slaughtering rabbits πŸ‡ looks weird to others but within their boundaries.
Homosexuality is not a crime

If it is not a crime,are you gay?

I’m not but will stand with what’s right. You don’t have to hate on others just because they are different from you Madam.

If being screwed up from behind by your fellow man's **** is good and you enjoy given a hard one piercing your **** why do you hate called homosexual/gay? You should love called what you're!

@Spikes the above is too explicit. This is not good for this site. Kindly amend your post and Wazua lingo. We have terms such as plane, airport, landing etc etc. Unless you are new to this place.


Same thing we keep saying, if this is a 'man' advancing believing in God talking such crap, then what type of gospel is this. Wacha ikae.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Spikes
#102 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:20:38 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,684
Location: Mombasa
Angelica _ann wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship.


Surely even where you live your neighbors and larger community would be greatly offended if you were "to share your private life" with a goat i.e. bestiality, or if you kept some huge snake or other animal to be worshiping in your own unique rituals. Therefore your personal freedom to love and worship has boundaries which are dictated by strange humans who are called the society.

I thought this should be simple and straightforward. An proper acceptable relationship has 2 or more consenting mentally stable adults. A goat /animal therefore is ruled out.
You are free to worship or not to if you don’t interfere with others freedom. A Japanese eating a crab πŸ¦€ or a Kenya slaughtering rabbits πŸ‡ looks weird to others but within their boundaries.
Homosexuality is not a crime

If it is not a crime,are you gay?

I’m not but will stand with what’s right. You don’t have to hate on others just because they are different from you Madam.

If being screwed up from behind by your fellow man's **** is good and you enjoy given a hard one piercing your **** why do you hate called homosexual/gay? You should love called what you're!

@Spikes the above is too explicit. This is not good for this site. Kindly amend your post and Wazua lingo. We have terms such as plane, airport, landing etc etc. Unless you are new to this place.


Same thing we keep saying, if this is a 'man' advancing believing in God talking such crap, then what type of gospel is this. Wacha ikae.


You do not know Jesus answered a woman that chakula ya watoto huwa haipewi mbwa? If @AA you were that woman would you have accepted that answer as the gospel?
In another instance Jesus rebukes Peter who happens to be his disciple: β€œGet away from me, Satan! You are a dangerous trap to me. You are seeing things merely from a human point of view, not from God’s.”
And various scenarios in the Bible. Now @AA how can you explain that?
John 5:17But Jesus replied, β€œMy Father is always working, and so am I.”
Tokyo
#103 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:28:49 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 10/9/2006
Posts: 1,420
Spikes wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship.


Surely even where you live your neighbors and larger community would be greatly offended if you were "to share your private life" with a goat ie beastiality, or if you kept some huge snake or other animal to be worshiping in your own unique rituals. Therefore your personal freedom to love and worship has boundaries which are dictated by strange humans who are called the society.


I thought this should be simple and straightforward. An proper acceptable relationship has 2 or more consenting mentally stable adults. A goat /animal therefore is ruled out.
You are free to worship or not to if you don’t interfere with others freedom. A Japanese eating a crab πŸ¦€ or a Kenya slaughtering rabbits πŸ‡ looks weird to others but within their boundaries.
Homosexuality is not a crime


If it is not a crime,are you gay?


I’m not but will stand with what’s right. You don’t have to hate on others just because they are different from you Madam.

If being screwed up from behind by your fellow man's d**k is good and you enjoy given a hard one piercing your a**hole why do you hate called homosexual /gay? You should love called what you're!


I will defend you if your behind get screwed against your will similar to how I will defend your LGBT πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ rights to land from behind.
work to prosper
sparkly
#104 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2019 1:57:09 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,293
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Spikes wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@spikes, your own book, the Bible says in Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads...'


Amen!


So how many gays have you killed?

@Sparkly are you gay?
Why are you so paranoid?


No, I am not BUT my positions are informed by the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to which Kenya is a party.

I reproduce it in full, below for your reference:


Quote:



P REAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, therefore,

The General Assembly proclaims

THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

             Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

             Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

             Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

             Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

             Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

             Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

             Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

             Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

             Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

             Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

             Article 11

Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

             Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

             Article 13

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

             Article 14

Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 15

Everyone has the right to a nationality.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

             Article 16

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

             Article 17

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

             Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

             Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

             Article 20

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

             Article 21

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.

Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

             Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

             Article 23

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

             Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

             Article 25

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

             Article 26

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

             Article 27

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

             Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

             Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.





Life is short. Live passionately.
AlphDoti
#105 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2019 8:04:43 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,055
Location: Kenya
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@spikes, your own book, the Bible says in Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads...'

Amen!

So how many gays have you killed?

@Sparkly are you gay?
Why are you so paranoid?

No, I am not BUT my positions are informed by the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to which Kenya is a party.

I reproduce it in full, below for your reference:
Quote:

PREAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, therefore,

The General Assembly proclaims

THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

             Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

             Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

             Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

             Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

             Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

             Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

             Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

             Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

             Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

             Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

             Article 11

Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

             Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

             Article 13

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

             Article 14

Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 15

Everyone has the right to a nationality.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

             Article 16

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

             Article 17

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

             Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

             Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

             Article 20

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

             Article 21

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.

Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

             Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

             Article 23

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

             Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

             Article 25

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

             Article 26

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

             Article 27

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

             Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

             Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

BREAKING NEWS ☎

47 Judges of World Human Right Court Declares; No Rights To Homosexual

(STRASBOURG'S FRANCE)

This is the world's most credible and important human right Court::::This judgment implies that:

(1) States are free to reserve marriage only to heterosexuals πŸ‘«

(2) Any law supporting Same sex marriages seek to destroy humanity.

(3) The enactment of laws to punish β›“ homosexual marriage is in order and does not constitute discrimination against persons.

(4) The natural right to marry is anthropologically healthy, valuable, sensible
and responsible between opposite Sex only.

(5) That considering the philosophy's of Natural laws, Common sense, Course of positive Laws, that Nature and indeed spirit nature does not in anyway contemplate homosexual marriage.

Thus, Article 12 πŸ“– of the European Convention on human right supports the claims which is also validated by Article on Human Right Treaties as in the case of 17 of the pact and No 23 of International Covenants on Civil and political Rights.

The 47 judge's held that the concept of Family created between man and woman is Supreme in the development of Human Race to the right order of life, peace, sanity, equality and equity.

To this end, Homosexual marriages should be;
* Rejected by our Spirit, Soul And Body,
* Chased out of our Social Orientation,
* Subtracted From our Constitution's and Laws and
* Should not be in any way be entertained by our respective Social cultures - whether by Religious means or by a constitutional given right by government, groups or nations:

Judgement Analyzed and Reported By WORKMAN INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHT COMMITTEE
Spikes
#106 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:34:10 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,684
Location: Mombasa
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@spikes, your own book, the Bible says in Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads...'

Amen!

So how many gays have you killed?

@Sparkly are you gay?
Why are you so paranoid?

No, I am not BUT my positions are informed by the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to which Kenya is a party.

I reproduce it in full, below for your reference:
Quote:

PREAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, therefore,

The General Assembly proclaims

THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

             Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

             Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

             Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

             Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

             Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

             Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

             Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

             Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

             Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

             Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

             Article 11

Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

             Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

             Article 13

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

             Article 14

Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 15

Everyone has the right to a nationality.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

             Article 16

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

             Article 17

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

             Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

             Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

             Article 20

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

             Article 21

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.

Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

             Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

             Article 23

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

             Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

             Article 25

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

             Article 26

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

             Article 27

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

             Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

             Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

BREAKING NEWS ☎

47 Judges of World Human Right Court Declares; No Rights To Homosexual

(STRASBOURG'S FRANCE)

This is the world's most credible and important human right Court::::This judgment implies that:

(1) States are free to reserve marriage only to heterosexuals πŸ‘«

(2) Any law supporting Same sex marriages seek to destroy humanity.

(3) The enactment of laws to punish β›“ homosexual marriage is in order and does not constitute discrimination against persons.

(4) The natural right to marry is anthropologically healthy, valuable, sensible
and responsible between opposite Sex only.

(5) That considering the philosophy's of Natural laws, Common sense, Course of positive Laws, that Nature and indeed spirit nature does not in anyway contemplate homosexual marriage.

Thus, Article 12 πŸ“– of the European Convention on human right supports the claims which is also validated by Article on Human Right Treaties as in the case of 17 of the pact and No 23 of International Covenants on Civil and political Rights.

The 47 judge's held that the concept of Family created between man and woman is Supreme in the development of Human Race to the right order of life, peace, sanity, equality and equity.

To this end, Homosexual marriages should be;
* Rejected by our Spirit, Soul And Body,
* Chased out of our Social Orientation,
* Subtracted From our Constitution's and Laws and
* Should not be in any way be entertained by our respective Social cultures - whether by Religious means or by a constitutional given right by government, groups or nations:

Judgement Analyzed and Reported By WORKMAN INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHT COMMITTEE

Applause Applause Applause
John 5:17But Jesus replied, β€œMy Father is always working, and so am I.”
sparkly
#107 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:37:42 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,293
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@spikes, your own book, the Bible says in Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads...'

Amen!

So how many gays have you killed?

@Sparkly are you gay?
Why are you so paranoid?

No, I am not BUT my positions are informed by the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to which Kenya is a party.

I reproduce it in full, below for your reference:
Quote:

PREAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, therefore,

The General Assembly proclaims

THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

             Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

             Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

             Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

             Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

             Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

             Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

             Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

             Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

             Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

             Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

             Article 11

Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

             Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

             Article 13

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

             Article 14

Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 15

Everyone has the right to a nationality.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

             Article 16

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

             Article 17

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

             Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

             Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

             Article 20

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

             Article 21

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.

Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

             Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

             Article 23

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

             Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

             Article 25

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

             Article 26

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

             Article 27

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

             Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

             Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

BREAKING NEWS ☎

47 Judges of World Human Right Court Declares; No Rights To Homosexual

(STRASBOURG'S FRANCE)

This is the world's most credible and important human right Court::::This judgment implies that:

(1) States are free to reserve marriage only to heterosexuals πŸ‘«

(2) Any law supporting Same sex marriages seek to destroy humanity.

(3) The enactment of laws to punish β›“ homosexual marriage is in order and does not constitute discrimination against persons.

(4) The natural right to marry is anthropologically healthy, valuable, sensible
and responsible between opposite Sex only.

(5) That considering the philosophy's of Natural laws, Common sense, Course of positive Laws, that Nature and indeed spirit nature does not in anyway contemplate homosexual marriage.

Thus, Article 12 πŸ“– of the European Convention on human right supports the claims which is also validated by Article on Human Right Treaties as in the case of 17 of the pact and No 23 of International Covenants on Civil and political Rights.

The 47 judge's held that the concept of Family created between man and woman is Supreme in the development of Human Race to the right order of life, peace, sanity, equality and equity.

To this end, Homosexual marriages should be;
* Rejected by our Spirit, Soul And Body,
* Chased out of our Social Orientation,
* Subtracted From our Constitution's and Laws and
* Should not be in any way be entertained by our respective Social cultures - whether by Religious means or by a constitutional given right by government, groups or nations:

Judgement Analyzed and Reported By WORKMAN INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHT COMMITTEE


More fiction than fact. The facts:

1. European Court of Human Rights is established under European Convention on Human Rights. Kenya is not party to the European Convention on Human Rights, hence its decisions do not apply in Kenya;

2. The Court has 47 Judges, once from each state but the maximum sitting is by 17 judges;

3. In the case of Schalk and Kopf vs. Austria

,%22itemid%22:[%22001-99605%22]}]schalk and Kopf Vs. Austria

the question was "whether an Austrian homosexual couple has a right to marriage". In other words, whether the right to marriage to a person of one's choice is absolute. The Court said that the right is not absolute, it can be limited. It is up to each country to decide whether to allow homosexual marriage or not. Nothing unusual here since even the right to heterosexual marriage is not absolute.

4. In the present discussion, we are dealing with the question whether two men or women doing their business in private should be considered criminals. My answer is they shouldn't.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Spikes
#108 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:10:08 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,684
Location: Mombasa
sparkly wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@spikes, your own book, the Bible says in Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads...'

Amen!

So how many gays have you killed?

@Sparkly are you gay?
Why are you so paranoid?

No, I am not BUT my positions are informed by the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to which Kenya is a party.

I reproduce it in full, below for your reference:
Quote:

PREAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, therefore,

The General Assembly proclaims

THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

             Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

             Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

             Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

             Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

             Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

             Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

             Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

             Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

             Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

             Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

             Article 11

Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

             Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

             Article 13

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

             Article 14

Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 15

Everyone has the right to a nationality.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

             Article 16

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

             Article 17

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

             Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

             Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

             Article 20

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

             Article 21

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.

Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

             Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

             Article 23

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

             Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

             Article 25

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

             Article 26

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

             Article 27

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

             Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

             Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

BREAKING NEWS ☎

47 Judges of World Human Right Court Declares; No Rights To Homosexual

(STRASBOURG'S FRANCE)

This is the world's most credible and important human right Court::::This judgment implies that:

(1) States are free to reserve marriage only to heterosexuals πŸ‘«

(2) Any law supporting Same sex marriages seek to destroy humanity.

(3) The enactment of laws to punish β›“ homosexual marriage is in order and does not constitute discrimination against persons.

(4) The natural right to marry is anthropologically healthy, valuable, sensible
and responsible between opposite Sex only.

(5) That considering the philosophy's of Natural laws, Common sense, Course of positive Laws, that Nature and indeed spirit nature does not in anyway contemplate homosexual marriage.

Thus, Article 12 πŸ“– of the European Convention on human right supports the claims which is also validated by Article on Human Right Treaties as in the case of 17 of the pact and No 23 of International Covenants on Civil and political Rights.

The 47 judge's held that the concept of Family created between man and woman is Supreme in the development of Human Race to the right order of life, peace, sanity, equality and equity.

To this end, Homosexual marriages should be;
* Rejected by our Spirit, Soul And Body,
* Chased out of our Social Orientation,
* Subtracted From our Constitution's and Laws and
* Should not be in any way be entertained by our respective Social cultures - whether by Religious means or by a constitutional given right by government, groups or nations:

Judgement Analyzed and Reported By WORKMAN INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHT COMMITTEE


More fiction than fact. The facts:

1. European Court of Human Rights is established under European Convention on Human Rights. Kenya is not party to the European Convention on Human Rights, hence its decisions do not apply in Kenya;

2. The Court has 47 Judges, once from each state but the maximum sitting is by 17 judges;

3. In the case of Schalk and Kopf vs. Austria

,%22itemid%22:[%22001-99605%22]}]schalk and Kopf Vs. Austria

the question was "whether an Austrian homosexual couple has a right to marriage". In other words, whether the right to marriage to a person of one's choice is absolute. The Court said that the right is not absolute, it can be limited. It is up to each country to decide whether to allow homosexual marriage or not. Nothing unusual here since even the right to heterosexual marriage is not absolute.

4. In the present discussion, we are dealing with the question whether two men or women doing their business in private should be considered criminals. My answer is they shouldn't.


The holy book says they must be put to death and their blood will be on their own heads. Period.
John 5:17But Jesus replied, β€œMy Father is always working, and so am I.”
mv_ufanisi
#109 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:04:06 PM
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Spikes wrote:
sparkly wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@spikes, your own book, the Bible says in Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads...'

Amen!

So how many gays have you killed?

@Sparkly are you gay?
Why are you so paranoid?

No, I am not BUT my positions are informed by the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to which Kenya is a party.

I reproduce it in full, below for your reference:
Quote:

PREAMBLE
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, therefore,

The General Assembly proclaims

THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

             Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

             Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

             Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

             Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

             Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

             Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

             Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

             Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

             Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

             Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

             Article 11

Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

             Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

             Article 13

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

             Article 14

Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 15

Everyone has the right to a nationality.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

             Article 16

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

             Article 17

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

             Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

             Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

             Article 20

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

             Article 21

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.

Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

             Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

             Article 23

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

             Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

             Article 25

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

             Article 26

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be coimpulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

             Article 27

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

             Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

             Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

             Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

BREAKING NEWS ☎

47 Judges of World Human Right Court Declares; No Rights To Homosexual

(STRASBOURG'S FRANCE)

This is the world's most credible and important human right Court::::This judgment implies that:

(1) States are free to reserve marriage only to heterosexuals πŸ‘«

(2) Any law supporting Same sex marriages seek to destroy humanity.

(3) The enactment of laws to punish β›“ homosexual marriage is in order and does not constitute discrimination against persons.

(4) The natural right to marry is anthropologically healthy, valuable, sensible
and responsible between opposite Sex only.

(5) That considering the philosophy's of Natural laws, Common sense, Course of positive Laws, that Nature and indeed spirit nature does not in anyway contemplate homosexual marriage.

Thus, Article 12 πŸ“– of the European Convention on human right supports the claims which is also validated by Article on Human Right Treaties as in the case of 17 of the pact and No 23 of International Covenants on Civil and political Rights.

The 47 judge's held that the concept of Family created between man and woman is Supreme in the development of Human Race to the right order of life, peace, sanity, equality and equity.

To this end, Homosexual marriages should be;
* Rejected by our Spirit, Soul And Body,
* Chased out of our Social Orientation,
* Subtracted From our Constitution's and Laws and
* Should not be in any way be entertained by our respective Social cultures - whether by Religious means or by a constitutional given right by government, groups or nations:

Judgement Analyzed and Reported By WORKMAN INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHT COMMITTEE


More fiction than fact. The facts:

1. European Court of Human Rights is established under European Convention on Human Rights. Kenya is not party to the European Convention on Human Rights, hence its decisions do not apply in Kenya;

2. The Court has 47 Judges, once from each state but the maximum sitting is by 17 judges;

3. In the case of Schalk and Kopf vs. Austria

,%22itemid%22:[%22001-99605%22]}]schalk and Kopf Vs. Austria

the question was "whether an Austrian homosexual couple has a right to marriage". In other words, whether the right to marriage to a person of one's choice is absolute. The Court said that the right is not absolute, it can be limited. It is up to each country to decide whether to allow homosexual marriage or not. Nothing unusual here since even the right to heterosexual marriage is not absolute.

4. In the present discussion, we are dealing with the question whether two men or women doing their business in private should be considered criminals. My answer is they shouldn't.


The holy book says they must be put to death and their blood will be on their own heads. Period.


the same 'holy' book says:

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

this is what the southern conservative christians were using to defend slavery of your African brethren in the American South. religion is not a ticket to stop using your brain.
mv_ufanisi
#110 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:09:54 PM
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more from your 'holy' book which just landed on this part of the world less than 150 years ago

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
sparkly
#111 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 10:19:21 AM
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Death sentence was rarely carried out in ancient Israel for some of those funny capital offenses. @Spikes take note.

Walter Kaiser Jr., Peter H. Davids, F. F. Bruce, and Manfred T. Brauch, Hard Sayings of the Bible (Downers Grove: IVP Academic, 1996), p. 162. ISBN 0-8308-1423-X wrote:

There is some question as to whether the death penalty was invariably or even usually implemented in ancient Israel, or whether this was even the intention of the Tanakh (c.f. Numbers 35:31). "It must be noted that the death penalty might also indicate the seriousness of the crime without calling for the actual implementation of it in every case. In fact, there is little evidence that many of these sanctions were ever actually carried out in ancient Israel. Only in the case of premeditated murder was there the added stricture of 'Do not accept a ransom for the life of the murderer who deserves to die' (Num 35:31). . . . Traditional wisdom, both in the Jewish and Christian communities, interpreted this verse in Numbers 35:31 to mean that out of the almost twenty cases calling for capital punishment in the Old Testament, every one of them could have the sanction commuted by an appropriate substitute of money or anything that showed the seriousness of the crime, but in the case of what we today call first-degree murder, there was never to be offered or accepted any substitute or bargaining of any kind: the offender had to pay with his or her life".[29]
Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#112 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 10:27:13 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,293
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
mv_ufanisi wrote:
more from your 'holy' book which just landed on this part of the world less than 150 years ago

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)


We must reject all forms of oppression and prejudice esp in the name of religion. He who does not stand against oppression, prejudice and tyranny supports it.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Spikes
#113 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 11:04:11 AM
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Location: Mombasa
sparkly wrote:
Death sentence was rarely carried out in ancient Israel for some of those funny capital offenses. @Spikes take note.

Walter Kaiser Jr., Peter H. Davids, F. F. Bruce, and Manfred T. Brauch, Hard Sayings of the Bible (Downers Grove: IVP Academic, 1996), p. 162. ISBN 0-8308-1423-X wrote:

There is some question as to whether the death penalty was invariably or even usually implemented in ancient Israel, or whether this was even the intention of the Tanakh (c.f. Numbers 35:31). "It must be noted that the death penalty might also indicate the seriousness of the crime without calling for the actual implementation of it in every case. In fact, there is little evidence that many of these sanctions were ever actually carried out in ancient Israel. Only in the case of premeditated murder was there the added stricture of 'Do not accept a ransom for the life of the murderer who deserves to die' (Num 35:31). . . . Traditional wisdom, both in the Jewish and Christian communities, interpreted this verse in Numbers 35:31 to mean that out of the almost twenty cases calling for capital punishment in the Old Testament, every one of them could have the sanction commuted by an appropriate substitute of money or anything that showed the seriousness of the crime, but in the case of what we today call first-degree murder, there was never to be offered or accepted any substitute or bargaining of any kind: the offender had to pay with his or her life".[29]

Since the time of John the Baptist the homosexuals,sorcerers, wizards are put to death spiritually. Remember the battle is spiritual and not physical.
Leviticus 20:27 The Message
β€œA man or woman who is a medium or sorcerer among you must be put to death. You must kill them by stoning. They’re responsible for their own deaths.”
We don't roam door to door eliminating gays. No! We stone them spiritually.
John 5:17But Jesus replied, β€œMy Father is always working, and so am I.”
mv_ufanisi
#114 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 11:04:50 AM
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Btw it's not too long ago that religious fanatics were using all manner of justifications to oppress the African and now the gay man. Incidentally their justification and inspiration for mistreating the Africans came from "Holy" Books

First is that Africans were cursed by the "Curse of Canaan/Ham" as below

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
– Genesis 9:20–27, King James Version

So because of this "Holy" book a lot of white heaven-bound Christians would have forcibly taken you from your home, put you in chains, put you on a ship to go and be their servant, raped the women, stole your lands and did all manner of injustices. After all the holy book approves!

Africans need to THINK before they regurgitate the non-sense that comes from the mouth of "evangelicals". A mind is a terrible thing to waste
Spikes
#115 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 11:09:17 AM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Btw it's not too long ago that religious fanatics were using all manner of justifications to oppress the African and now the gay man. Incidentally their justification and inspiration for mistreating the Africans came from "Holy" Books

First is that Africans were cursed by the "Curse of Canaan/Ham" as below

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
– Genesis 9:20–27, King James Version

So because of this "Holy" book a lot of white heaven-bound Christians would have forcibly taken you from your home, put you in chains, put you on a ship to go and be their servant, raped the women, stole your lands and did all manner of injustices. After all the holy book approves!

Africans need to THINK before they regurgitate the non-sense that comes from the mouth of "evangelicals". A mind is a terrible thing to waste


The problem with you call darkness light...No wonder you are inventing new ways of sinning. If your parents came from the same gender would you have been in existence becoming a keyboard warrier you're today? Halafu mnashida mkisema oooh use your brain. Which brain are you using if you support homosexual a vile act that cannot enhance procreation?
John 5:17But Jesus replied, β€œMy Father is always working, and so am I.”
mv_ufanisi
#116 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 11:16:41 AM
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Spikes wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Btw it's not too long ago that religious fanatics were using all manner of justifications to oppress the African and now the gay man. Incidentally their justification and inspiration for mistreating the Africans came from "Holy" Books

First is that Africans were cursed by the "Curse of Canaan/Ham" as below

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
– Genesis 9:20–27, King James Version

So because of this "Holy" book a lot of white heaven-bound Christians would have forcibly taken you from your home, put you in chains, put you on a ship to go and be their servant, raped the women, stole your lands and did all manner of injustices. After all the holy book approves!

Africans need to THINK before they regurgitate the non-sense that comes from the mouth of "evangelicals". A mind is a terrible thing to waste


The problem with you call darkness light...No wonder you are inventing new ways of sinning.


Your problem is that your education has boxed you into not being able to think beyond the Bible and religious text. You have become a proper "Sijui" who does not know where you came from.

You somehow think that a foreign religious text which only landed here 150 years ago through colonialism somehow is the literal truth and forget that for TENS of thousands of years before that our ancestors had their own way of life with themselves as the chosen people.

Critical thinking needs to be introduced as a core subject in the educational curriculum. Not learning by memory and regurgitation. This produces sheep not THINKERS.
mv_ufanisi
#117 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 11:24:12 AM
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Spikes wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Btw it's not too long ago that religious fanatics were using all manner of justifications to oppress the African and now the gay man. Incidentally their justification and inspiration for mistreating the Africans came from "Holy" Books

First is that Africans were cursed by the "Curse of Canaan/Ham" as below

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
– Genesis 9:20–27, King James Version

So because of this "Holy" book a lot of white heaven-bound Christians would have forcibly taken you from your home, put you in chains, put you on a ship to go and be their servant, raped the women, stole your lands and did all manner of injustices. After all the holy book approves!

Africans need to THINK before they regurgitate the non-sense that comes from the mouth of "evangelicals". A mind is a terrible thing to waste


The problem with you call darkness light...No wonder you are inventing new ways of sinning. If your parents came from the same gender would you have been in existence becoming a keyboard warrier you're today? Halafu mnashida mkisema oooh use your brain. Which brain are you using if you support homosexual a vile act that cannot enhance procreation?


Your problem is an overly simplistic understanding of the world which doesn't support intellectual inquiry and thought.

In your world, there are no people like Caster Semenya. Sex is only about pro-creation and the only natural sex is heterosexual sex. Just because you don't have homosexual tendencies or that you have one pair of sexual organs doesn't mean that everyone in the world is built like that. You can easily Google homosexual behavior in animals to know that this happens or be observant enough to notice that even sheep and some dogs display it.

In stead of listening and regurgitating what your pastor keeps repeating to you every Sunday while threatening fire and brimstone to anyone with a different view you should pick up a book and do some studying.
Spikes
#118 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2019 10:56:01 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Btw it's not too long ago that religious fanatics were using all manner of justifications to oppress the African and now the gay man. Incidentally their justification and inspiration for mistreating the Africans came from "Holy" Books

First is that Africans were cursed by the "Curse of Canaan/Ham" as below

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
– Genesis 9:20–27, King James Version

So because of this "Holy" book a lot of white heaven-bound Christians would have forcibly taken you from your home, put you in chains, put you on a ship to go and be their servant, raped the women, stole your lands and did all manner of injustices. After all the holy book approves!

Africans need to THINK before they regurgitate the non-sense that comes from the mouth of "evangelicals". A mind is a terrible thing to waste


The problem with you call darkness light...No wonder you are inventing new ways of sinning.


Your problem is that your education has boxed you into not being able to think beyond the Bible and religious text. You have become a proper "Sijui" who does not know where you came from.

You somehow think that a foreign religious text which only landed here 150 years ago through colonialism somehow is the literal truth and forget that for TENS of thousands of years before that our ancestors had their own way of life with themselves as the chosen people.

Critical thinking needs to be introduced as a core subject in the educational curriculum. Not learning by memory and regurgitation. This produces sheep not THINKERS.


Are you being shoved from behind?
John 5:17But Jesus replied, β€œMy Father is always working, and so am I.”
sparkly
#119 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2019 8:12:38 AM
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Spikes wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Btw it's not too long ago that religious fanatics were using all manner of justifications to oppress the African and now the gay man. Incidentally their justification and inspiration for mistreating the Africans came from "Holy" Books

First is that Africans were cursed by the "Curse of Canaan/Ham" as below

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
– Genesis 9:20–27, King James Version

So because of this "Holy" book a lot of white heaven-bound Christians would have forcibly taken you from your home, put you in chains, put you on a ship to go and be their servant, raped the women, stole your lands and did all manner of injustices. After all the holy book approves!

Africans need to THINK before they regurgitate the non-sense that comes from the mouth of "evangelicals". A mind is a terrible thing to waste


The problem with you call darkness light...No wonder you are inventing new ways of sinning.


Your problem is that your education has boxed you into not being able to think beyond the Bible and religious text. You have become a proper "Sijui" who does not know where you came from.

You somehow think that a foreign religious text which only landed here 150 years ago through colonialism somehow is the literal truth and forget that for TENS of thousands of years before that our ancestors had their own way of life with themselves as the chosen people.

Critical thinking needs to be introduced as a core subject in the educational curriculum. Not learning by memory and regurgitation. This produces sheep not THINKERS.


Are you being shoved from behind?


Homophobes might be hidden homosexuals.
Life is short. Live passionately.
wukan
#120 Posted : Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:32:49 AM
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Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,217
Let me leave this one here...mlisema there is some holy book interpretationsmile smile smile iko ndani ndani kwa kanisa

Quote:
Investigations into the murder of Catholic priest Michael Kyengo took a dramatic twist yesterday when a prime suspect said he had been in a romantic relationship with the cleric.

The fresh claims by the 25-year-old nursery school trained teacher have sent investigators back to the drawing board, a day after a postmortem examination on the priest, confirmed that he died of stab wounds.

Kyengo’s body was discovered buried in a shallow grave on Wednesday, eight days after the priest was reported missing from his Matungulu home in Machakos County.

Last evening, detectives from the Special Crime Prevention Unit and the DCI homicide unit were yet to make a decision on whether to conduct a second postmortem to confirm claims of the romantic relationship.

β€œJust like in cases where claims of sexual nature are made, we are considering a second round of examination on his body to confirm if there was any intercourse,” a source familiar with the probe said yesterday.

Forensic examination of the suspect’s mobile phone has further reinforced his claims after the police discovered romantic text messages alleged to be between the preacher and the male teacher.

In one of the conversations seen by the Saturday Standard dated October 6, the two referred to each other in romantic terms of β€œHi dear” and β€œhi my love”.
https://www.standardmedi...ey-sex-in-priest-murder
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