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Treasury Bills and Bonds
maka
#961 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2018 10:25:56 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,727
Location: Nairobi
AndyC wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
gatoho wrote:
What happened to Infrastructure bonds? Nimeemaliza pesa nikigoja



Hadi next year...


Hadi 2021;


Last year there was one in Nov, the year before it was in 0ct. The Nov schedule from CBK is not out yet.Any proof from team 2019 or 2021?



Ummh rem IFBs have an amortisation aspect to them... I believe they are avoiding that for now.. They will stick to longer dated bonds to increase average maturity period.
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Impunity
#962 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2018 11:40:48 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 25,735
Location: Masada
Angelica _ann wrote:
AndyC wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
gatoho wrote:
What happened to Infrastructure bonds? Nimeemaliza pesa nikigoja



Hadi next year...


Hadi 2021;


Last year there was one in Nov, the year before it was in 0ct. The Nov schedule from CBK is not out yet.Any proof from team 2019 or 2021?


Proof ..... Jubilee gave up on infrastructure development based on the recent budget that was forced on us.


But ata hizi pesa za IFB usually ends in other uses other than Infrastructure...once Pesa is placed in the consolidated account,anything goes.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#963 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2018 11:43:09 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 25,735
Location: Masada
maka wrote:
AndyC wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
gatoho wrote:
What happened to Infrastructure bonds? Nimeemaliza pesa nikigoja



Hadi next year...


Hadi 2021;


Last year there was one in Nov, the year before it was in 0ct. The Nov schedule from CBK is not out yet.Any proof from team 2019 or 2021?



Ummh rem IFBs have an amortisation aspect to them... I believe they are avoiding that for now.. They will stick to longer dated bonds to increase average maturity period.


What do you mean in layman's language,the Amortization aspect.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#964 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2018 9:38:35 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,727
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
AndyC wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
gatoho wrote:
What happened to Infrastructure bonds? Nimeemaliza pesa nikigoja



Hadi next year...


Hadi 2021;


Last year there was one in Nov, the year before it was in 0ct. The Nov schedule from CBK is not out yet.Any proof from team 2019 or 2021?



Ummh rem IFBs have an amortisation aspect to them... I believe they are avoiding that for now.. They will stick to longer dated bonds to increase average maturity period.


What do you mean in layman's language,the Amortization aspect.



Unlike traditional normal straight vanilla bonds... The IFB pays back some amount before maturity date.... In the case of IFB 14....IFB1/2018/15....You will be paid 40% of your fig (if its unencumbered /not in lien) in 2028...then the 60% at maturity date I.e in 2033....Amounts up to 1m that are not encumbered will be redeemed in full during the 1st amortisation date.... The traditional bonds pay invested principal once at maturity....

Check it out from the calc....



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Angelica _ann
#965 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:07:04 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 9,526
.wrong thread .
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
AndyC
#966 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2018 5:48:11 PM
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Joined: 4/21/2015
Posts: 71
Angelica _ann wrote:
.wrong thread .


Wrong comment!
Ebenyo
#967 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2018 1:35:55 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 1,368
Location: Kitale
@Maka,nategea prospectus ya t.bond ya november.Post them as soon as they are available pliz.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
maka
#968 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2018 7:59:59 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,727
Location: Nairobi
Ebenyo wrote:
@Maka,nategea prospectus ya t.bond ya november.Post them as soon as they are available pliz.



Bado Boss...I will post.
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maka
#969 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2018 9:48:03 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,727
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
@Maka,nategea prospectus ya t.bond ya november.Post them as soon as they are available pliz.



Bado Boss...I will post.



https://www.businessdail...41472-11ru1pl/index.html
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maka
#970 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2018 1:19:50 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,727
Location: Nairobi
8/11/18
1)Fixed Income:Market turnover dropped to KES 868Mn as information on this month's primary auction filtered out. Indications are the offer will be a 20-year IFB, the longest infrastructure bond to be issued to date.
#SokoNews https://t.co/427AcghbBP
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Ebenyo
#971 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2018 2:17:15 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 1,368
Location: Kitale
[quote=maka]8/11/18
1)Fixed Income:Market turnover dropped to KES 868Mn as information on this month's primary auction filtered out. Indications are the offer will be a 20-year IFB, the longest infrastructure bond to be issued to date.
#SokoNews https://t.co/427AcghbBP[/quote]

That will be so nice.im looking forward to it.
I have tried to communicate to cbk guys but they are quiet.
I talked to them last last year when i placed for a bid for a bond which went through.
Now im wondering they are quiet
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Impunity
#972 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2018 4:04:07 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 25,735
Location: Masada
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

ibsi
#973 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:04:20 PM
Rank: New-farer


Joined: 5/7/2010
Posts: 17
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.

I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site.
Impunity
#974 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:52:36 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 25,735
Location: Masada
ibsi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.

I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site.


I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days.
This opus dei is so secretive.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Angelica _ann
#975 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2018 10:33:57 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 9,526
Impunity wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.

I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site.


I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days.
This opus dei is so secretive.


Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??).
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
AndyC
#976 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:57:03 AM
Rank: New-farer


Joined: 4/21/2015
Posts: 71
Angelica _ann wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.

I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site.


I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days.
This opus dei is so secretive.


Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??).


They might know who has the money!
maka
#977 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 12:11:53 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,727
Location: Nairobi
AndyC wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.

I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site.


I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days.
This opus dei is so secretive.


Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??).


They might know who has the money!



WSR.... 🀣🀣🀣

Any percentage point counts even if its 0.05....

I never was a fan of the governor when he was appointed but the guy has brought in some order hapo CBK...



Ndiyo hiyo link.... πŸ‘‡πŸΎπŸ‘‡πŸΎ

https://www.centralbank....s-bonds/treasury-bonds/

If am not wrong this is our first 50B auction... πŸ€”πŸ€”

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maka
#978 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 12:18:35 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,727
Location: Nairobi
AndyC wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.

I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site.


I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days.
This opus dei is so secretive.


Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??).


They might know who has the money!



Interesting might they have targeted some foreigners... Weren't those treasury guys in London some few weeks back... Its indeed fishy the other 15 year just closed the juzi juzi... Most def they will reopen it...

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Impunity
#979 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 12:32:54 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 25,735
Location: Masada
maka wrote:
AndyC wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.

I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site.


I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days.
This opus dei is so secretive.


Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??).


They might know who has the money!



WSR.... 🀣🀣🀣

Any percentage point counts even if its 0.05....

I never was a fan of the governor when he was appointed but the guy has brought in some order hapo CBK...



Ndiyo hiyo link.... πŸ‘‡πŸΎπŸ‘‡πŸΎ

https://www.centralbank....s-bonds/treasury-bonds/

If am not wrong this is our first 50B auction... πŸ€”πŸ€”



So we've never have such a huge offer in one auction?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#980 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 2:19:19 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 10,727
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
AndyC wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short?
Is it to lock out some souls?
And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.

I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site.


I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days.
This opus dei is so secretive.


Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??).


They might know who has the money!



WSR.... 🀣🀣🀣

Any percentage point counts even if its 0.05....

I never was a fan of the governor when he was appointed but the guy has brought in some order hapo CBK...



Ndiyo hiyo link.... πŸ‘‡πŸΎπŸ‘‡πŸΎ

https://www.centralbank....s-bonds/treasury-bonds/

If am not wrong this is our first 50B auction... πŸ€”πŸ€”



So we've never have such a huge offer in one auction?


FXD 1/2018/10 ....40 Bn....IFB 1/2011/12.....40Bn...

I think at some point on this thread I said we will see a 50 Bn issue in our lifetime it has come to pass....
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